The Western Digital WDTV Live combines support for networking and making playing your multimedia files on your TV easier than ever before. However, other devices on the market offer the same and better functionality for less money.
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I wish i'd waited to buy this unit over the Xtreamer that I got a couple of month ago. If anyone's considering the Xtreamer, i'd advise against it until they get their firmware v2 out of beta and actually get the unit working smoothly on the networking side. Also the internet integration is plagued with bugs and is poorly implemented.
If the FW is sorted out then it's a worthy competitor to this WD effort.
This WD unit looks like it has a much more polished UI and I have no doubt that it's probably a lot quieter in operation than the Xtreamer. (v.noisy fan)
The one feature everyone was wanting was.... what????
What about DTS audio? Every single person i know who has a mark 1 device wants DTS decoding! -That- is the newly included codec which makes the mark 2 better, not some rubbishy Real Media whatever!
The device is completely silent - no moving parts at all, and it's rated to over 70°C, which it doesn;t hit even when playing very high bitrate files (60MB/s. While the Xstreamer does come with a fan, you can turn it off though with no discernible difference in playback.
MSIC is spot on here Ed - no one cares about realmedia (who else but BBC radio still uses it anyway?) - it's the DTS support that's awesome here, especially the extra offering of automatic 2.0 DTS downmix for those of us without awesome pimptacular 5.1 setups.
The WDTV Live also has improved HD file support in regard to the number of reference frames in a file. On the original if a file had too many it just wouldn't play - now it doesn't matter how many reference frames there are in HD media - they just play.
Add those improvements to the new networking capabilites and this is surely a superior offering than the WDTV?
@Kinn: As Harry says, it's completely silent. It does get warm to the touch but not to a level that should concern you.
@MSIC, Harry: I'd argue DTS decoding isn't necessarily that big of a deal but it all depends on your usage so point taken.
All told, this is definitely an awesome device but depending on your usage you may be better off saving some money and getting the O!Play.
I've added the video for this now. When we shot it the price of the WDTV Live was £120 - thus the reference to the Asus being £40 cheaper - but obviously that's changed now.
Can anyone actually find the Asus one anywhere? Last time I looked it was either impossible to search for due to the bloody stupid name (yes, Asus literally deserve to be punished by losing sales over the silly name), or everywhere seemed to be out of stock, or still expecting stock in.
Plus, if you do happen to find it anywhere, by the time you factor in delivery, it's less than a £10 difference, if that.
@everyone: I recently bought the original WDTV - mainly to play mkv files. It seems to be happy to play audio and video on most of my mkv files (tv shows) but my larger film files only play the video.
Does anyone know if the new wdtv will play the audio files on these films because of the DTS decoding (or am i getting the wrong end of the stick)? Also - i'm waiting for my Onkyo TX-SR507 amp to come. Will this be able to play the audio seeing as i'm connecting the wdtv to this and then into my tv?
I've got another week in which i can return it and was wondering if it's worth spending the extra £30 on this version (i'm not really bothered about the network connection).
Any thoughts/comments would be much appreciated :)
I agree with MSIC and Harry, DTS decoding and network support was the only thing lacking on the WDTV (never encountered a RM whatever myself). They hit the jackpot with the WDTV and this improvement will keep brand loyalty and positive word of mouth going.
I will be picking one up for xmas, just need to decide to give the old one as a present or keep it as a spare.
@Nick, yes, the film files would most likely to be DTS so the WDTV won't play the audio. If you plug it into the Onkyo through hdmi it will work fine, just set your WDTV audio ouput to digital.
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@drdark: Seem to be plenty of stockists now: http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=Asus%20O!Play%20HDP-R1&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf
It now seems that the WD TV Live is in short supply. I got mine from Scan but they're out of stock. The only place I've seen with stock is Amazon, but they're selling it for £157.
The only reason I went for the WD TV Live over the Asus O!Play, was for the better interface, and more options when dealing with files (e.g. being able to delete them off shares and ext. HD).
@Andy: I don't want to come across as needlessly argumentative in every topic I post under on TR, so I'll keep this short:
The only site not covered by the statement I made in my previous post is CCL: http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?id=35289
and even then they state "Stock: 10 in 2-3 days". I'm somewhat sceptical as to the accuracy of this statement. Finally, their estimated £3.52 delivery charge is likely their Royal Mail price, so it'll probably cost more to have it delivered in reasonable time.
We (CCL) had 5x of the O!Plays in stock a couple of weeks ago but they sold out. We're waiting on further stocks at the moment - should be 4-6 weeks apparantly. Maybe just in time for Christmas? :(
Correct, £3.52 cost is for Royal Mail.. City-Link postage doesn't cost much more though.
I've actually already got one of the original WDTV models, but back when I was looking even then the O!Play seemed to be in short supply. Anyway, hope the information helped somebody.
@Pbryanw: Yes, I noticed the WD TV Live was in a similar situation too at the moment, however just wanted to note that the £157 price on Amazon is actually a marketplace seller.
In fact if you glace to the right: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Internet-Streamer-Television/dp/B002LZUHMI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1256834294&sr=8-1
,you'll find Amazon are selling it for £99.99 but it's due in 2 to 3 weeks (same price they have for the O!Play which is due in 1to3months...)
Amazon are selling this @£157! A quick Google reveals scan selling it at or around £100. Keep Googling guys! The O!Play looks like a descent piece of kit, but the interface is a deal killer, the WDTV Live's in comparison looks like a nice update to the previous model. I hope these improvements filter down to the older model via a firmware update.
Anyone know if this is realistic expectation?
Why no wifi? In this day an age I can only see it as an omission. Very disappointed. Maybe version 3.0 will not disappoint. Here's STILL hoping.
@Pbryanw: You can buy a USB wi-fi adaptor for the WDTV Live but, like you said, this will probably be incorporated into the device by the next version.
Personally I'd find it pointless, every device I've used that incorporates wireless just doesn't have bandwidth for HD, or in a lot of cases even SD. Eg, my Aspire Revo has built in wireless but it's useless, better option is a set of HomePlugs and be done with it, especially when there so cheap now, eg. you can a set of 85Mps homeplugs for less than £50.
Also I tend to think wireless has been a victim of it's own success. Eg, when I first got a wireless router I was the only person down our street with one, reception was great, but now with nearly 15+ people nearby with wireless it has no chance of giving a decent reception.
The WDTV Live will play video files with DTS audio though TV set speakers, you do not necessarily need a DTS decoder as the WDTV Live downmixes DTS to stereo if you don't use the optical out.
+1 @Ed, ditto. I've mine since it came out. Haven't had any playing or sound issues, yet i keep reading about these so called "problems". I watch movies, tv episodes, big and small files... bemussed... yet happy as I've no problems with mine. Gonna get another one for my Dad to watch the home movies of the Grandkids!!
I bought the unit, couldn't do the next chspter, brought it back to the store to exchange. I did not know if there was something wrong with the unit or the remote control (which has the "next" button using the standard "next chapter/track" icon). Trying on the second unit, still same problem. Only found out after searching info on the internet that the "feature" (it should be standard, not feature) is not there. I couldn't believe it. The buttons next/prev to me are as important as the play button. Would anybody these days buy a dvd player w/o the play/prev/next buttons?
WD must be kidding to make such a shitty device. Was it designed by a VCR team 15 or 20 years ago? VCR was even better because when you took the tape out and put it back, it played from that position.
WD should recall the device and have the engineers do their homework before releasing the product.
I bought this on Friday and spent all Friday evening setting it up/playing with it. Seemed to be ok, then on Saturday it wouldn't find my network - factory reset. Then it started playing vids to jerkily (from the network AND USB memory stick AND external USB hard drive) they were unwatchable as it gave me a headache after a few minutes.
As for the FF and REW buttons on the remote, these are a law onto themselves as you could press FF at 3 minutes into a film and end up watching it at some completely different point, in my case, 1h12m! REW was the same.
This product is an absolute disaster, and after 5 factory resets I've had enough - it's boxed up and going back tomorrow. I think I'll give Asus a turn now....
can anyone tell me if this can play BBC iPlayer or Love Film streaming? The US website says it can do Netflix so I would have thought it would have the capability.
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