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@Gordan. Thanks for the great review.
Just one question I am on the old super hub but in modem mode connected to the
Linksys EA6500 would it be advisable to upgrade to the new modem even though modem mode would still be used. I.e. are there any reliability improvements, e.g. less rebooting of the modem. Thanks
Hi Zeus, that is a very good question (and a fine choice of router btw ;)
The old Super Hub did improve significantly with firmware updates so it isn't vital if you're just going to use the new one in modem mode. That said I did find the new Super Hub to be extremely reliable throughout my testing and it may offer a more solid connection.
If VM will do you a deal I'd say go for it, but the new Super Hub is more applicable for those who are using the old model as their main wireless router.
Will i be able to import settings from my previous superhub's .cfg file?
Thanks Gordon. Great answer. I will think about it. I bought the router after reading the review :) as usual TrustedReviews is my first port of call.
Very kind of you to say. By complete coincidence we are just finishing our review of the EA6700 - but it is an incremental upgrade, so don't worry too much :)
@ZeusIf you are using the Superhub in modem-only mode then I doubt there is anything to gain from the new Superhub. Modem-only mode, as I'm sure you know, is not simply switching off the wifi to 'avoid interference',but means you are ditching the entire router/switch/wifi components of the Superhub and using only the cable modulator/demodulator part. Thus all the improvements made in the new Superhub's wifi etc will all be out of circuit.
That said, most people used modem-only mode as an escape from the truly abysmal wifi/router performance of the original SuperHub, or because they needed router features which it lacked. If the new SuperHub puts all those to right, then maybe one fewer PSUs to plug in is nice?
No you won't, it needs to be setup again but the new Super Hub's settings are very straightforward and even complex settings shouldn't take long.
toboev, thank you for your assumptions but you assume incorrectly.
As I explain in the review the modem mode does more than switch off the WiFi, it also disables every Ethernet port except the one used for the Internet supply to a third party router. You have a modem and nothing more... as the name spells out.
That said what I also make clear to Zeus (and you seem to have missed) is that the new Super Hub is an altogether more stable product than the old Super Hub - whether set up as a router or a modem.
Given the old Super Hub can require multiple reboots in any given month the role of the new Super Hub as a steadfast and reliable modem has merit even when used with a third party router.
Again as the review also points out the performance of the new Super Hub means upgrades for 802.11n routers are no longer necessary unless specific additional functionality is required (integrated parental restrictions, for example). And as I conclude, for most users an extra router (and be definition an additional PSU) now won't be needed.
Hi Gordon. My apologies.I think I have said just about everything for which you upbraid me, right down to the nicety about fewer PSU's.My only assumption is that you have any meaningfoul basis for saying that the new Superhub is more stable than the old. That would require at least a month or so of use, and preferably more than one sample. Sorry if I wrongly assumed you had tested only one device over a short period.
No problem, you were contradicting an answer I had already given which is what frustrates.
You are right we don't have multiple review samples, but routers are put through the wringer during prolonged testing which typically brings stability issues to the surface. So far the new Super Hub has been rock solid.
The new Super Hub has also replaced the old Super Hub in our Virgin setup (we have both DSL and cable) and will continue to be tested long term. We will update the review if any issues arise.
:( lol thanks for that :), love my Router, would be nice to have some actual kit that can utilise the AC though...mmm maybe a reason to get the new mac book pro when they come out...can usually come up with a reason :) although my 2011 17" rocks still :)
Gordon Kelly toboev Thanks guys, Considering I do have such a good AC router anyway, even if I did get the new super hub would stay in modem mode so nice to know its reliability in modem mode is improved.
802.11ac dongles should appear before too long. They don't work as well as integrated wireless, but better maybe than a full MacBook Pro upgrade! (Unless you don't need an excuse :)
:) Put it this way received a Onkyo 818 and Monitor Audio RX6 5.1 set recently so better wait till next year (although I say that now). Thats all attached to my 5 year old or so Sony KDL46X2000 TV...hope you see the trend...alll reviews on the site :) which I visit multiple times a day. My wallet/bank balance probably hates the site though.
"The new Super Hub also has far more subtle lighting with LEDs along the front to indicate power, data transmission, broadband status and the operation of 2.4GHz and 5GHz wireless modes. This means Virgin wisely omits the garish glowing Virgin Media logo slapped on the side of the old Super Hub, though both it and the new model can dim or switch off the lights completely."
Wait a minute, how do you dim the lights on the existing superhub !? Even VirginMedia engineers (both phone-engies and physical-engies dont know how to do that !
I think I'll go for a motherboard and CPU upgrade and get the Asus Z87 Deluxe with internal ac wireless.
As you are great at responding, and seem to be the man in the know, have you any experience with the Asus ac router (promise I'm not a rep).It's just that their n router was widely considered the best. I'd love to see a TR review for it.
Unless there is a super secret edit function I've missed, then you have both been saying almost exactly the same thing, differing only on whether the new modem components make it more reliable.
Hi Nate, we actually haven't tested the Asus ac router - good point, we'll chase it up.
I'd have high hopes, though for me the D-Link DIR-845 http://www.trustedreviews.com/... and Linksys EA4500 were the best of the 802.11n routers.
Did you test their 11n router? I couldn't find a link for that either.
I've used it but a loan glitch meant we didn't have it long enough to review it. From the time I had was definitely one of the better n routers, but wasn't up to the performance of the D-Link or Linksys.
Thanks for the info.
Hi Simon,Ye there's no way to dim/disable the LED lights on the original Super Hub.
Trusted reviews state the LEDS can be turned off, no they can only be dimmed TR as there is no option in the control panel only 3 choices of LED Brightness can be chosen
After half a dozen arguments with Virgin over the phone, they have now given in and are installing a new SH2 free of charge. My argument was why should I have to pay for new kit when the kit the have supplied me (SH1) isn't fit for purpose. I have had nothing but trouble with it since day one. Keep annoying the hell out of them and you will get one for nothing.
Why no QOS!!!!!
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