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nalo

6:43 PM on 17 June, 2009

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From the looks of the o2 update page for Pay & Go data, we will be required to top up by at least £10 to get the OS 3.0... http://shop.o2.co.uk/update/settings.html

Why o2?! I'm annoyed.

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xenos

6:59 PM on 17 June, 2009

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So can you send pictures with Bluetooth now? I took the absolute leg out of my mate last night as he couldn't receive it :-P

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Alex.rar

7:03 PM on 17 June, 2009

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When i got my ipod touch i just got so annoyed by having to pay for three updates now - no wonder i resorted to jailbreaking - GJ on unlocking it already!! they should give up trying to secure it (or maybe they alredy have)

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Michael2

7:08 PM on 17 June, 2009

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what exactly do you mean by "unlocked"??

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Gordon394

7:24 PM on 17 June, 2009

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@Michael - erm... unlocked. Think you should perhaps watch the video. Had I meant jailbroken, trust me I'd have said 'jailbroken' ;)

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Michael2

7:58 PM on 17 June, 2009

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sorry about my last comment. i realized how utterly retarded it was just after i clicked send. i read like a proper man... miss lots out haha

proper Q tho... any apps available that take advantage of all the 3.0 magic yet? i want a facebook app with Push.

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Hugo

8:07 PM on 17 June, 2009

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Roll on Friday so I can have 3.0 with Orange...

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MathewWhite

8:43 PM on 17 June, 2009

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What a bloody let-down this update is... There we've been thinking we iPhone 3G owners would get video shooting, Voice Control and other goodies, only to find them missing once the phone is updated... What do we really have? Copy and Paste, a search facility, a landscape keyboard and a search facility - oh, and a voice memo app that we could have got from the app store before... very VERY disappointing, Apple.

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Virbo

8:44 PM on 17 June, 2009

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@Gordon

I couldn't wait and cheekily got the torrent development version as you kindly tempted us all with recently. My question though - Is this the full and final version? iTunes now says I have the latest version (3.0) and wont let me download the 'official' version. Is this an issue or are both versions the same?

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starling

9:51 PM on 17 June, 2009

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I've installed 3.0 onto my iPod touch 2g. Installed fine but YouTube no longer works!? Grrr!!Anybody else having the same problem?

Cut and paste seems to work very well - but the best feature IMHO is the improvements to the predective text when typing. It's much better now. I hated typing on my ipod touch before.

Hope the YouTube app is fixed soon!

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SRS

10:36 PM on 17 June, 2009

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iPhone OS 3.0 Launched... but unfortunately not with enough activation servers at Apple. They're down, like they are for every major release. Oh well.

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Ironduke

9:33 AM on 18 June, 2009

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@Mathew White

stop saying We I certainly didnt, the 3g's camera cant handle 30fps video.

You obviously were miss informed by your source

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Greg17b

9:45 AM on 18 June, 2009

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I'm still not going anywhere near an iPhone until the ridiculous situation around tethering is sorted out. If that nut is cracked, either officially or otherwise, I'll take another look.

Current 3G users must be feeling a little left out of this update - it seems to be a tease to get them to upgrade.

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PhaniAreti

10:38 AM on 18 June, 2009

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I am completely disappointed with the 3.0 update... nothing has really changed..well may be a little bit I was expecting the Bluetooth streaming to work in car but hey!! it didn't work. has any body managed to get it worked yet!

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deecee

10:44 AM on 18 June, 2009

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@Greg -

http://richardlai.xanga.com/704930537/enable-tethering-on-iphone-30---too-easy-worldwide-carriers/

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Cub

11:01 AM on 18 June, 2009

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Serious question; how many other manufacturers out there continue to roll out brand new OS features after the launch of a handset? I think, generally, none. If I'm wrong, fair doos, I've not done a lot of research on the matter, although I seem to remember reading that WinMob 6.5 will run on barely a tiny fraction of current winmob devices... If I'm right, then what makes us so special as iPhone owners that we demand continuous free stuff from our handset manufacturer when it's done nowhere else in a market that Apple is continually accused of being so far behind in...

Yes, I'm irritated that I can't shoot videos on my iPhone when jail broken 3G units have proven that it's possible, but I certainly don't feel cheated. In my 2 years as a Palm Treo owner I received nothing from Palm. I got no new, free games or features or apps for my Sony Ericsson p900 in my 18 months with the handset, despite SE rolling out numerous new handsets with lots of lovely features on them...

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Keithe6e

1:16 PM on 18 June, 2009

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@Cub, I totally agree. It's the same for Touch users saying there hard done by because they have to pay $9 or whatever, come on ppl, if you installed XP are you expected to get Windows 7 for free. The only reason IPhone users get it free is because the phone companies are in essence paying for it. How I wish every piece of software I bought had continues free upgrades that would be great, but not really practical.

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Jay4d0

2:38 PM on 18 June, 2009

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@nalo

that is only for brand new payngo iphones as you need to change your settings and top up to activate it shouldnt be required just to get 3.0 if youve been a payngo iphone for a while though you do have to change the settings

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ILoveGagdets

2:46 PM on 18 June, 2009

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@cub

I guess it depends if you really see the update as a new OS or just a firmware update. From where I sit it just looks like a f/w update where they're adding the features that other handsets have had for ages. To brand it as a whole new O/S to me is just a way of getting more revenue. Of course there are a number of manufacturers that release free f/w updates.

ILG

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Keithe6e

3:59 PM on 18 June, 2009

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@ILoveGagdets: I guess it depends if you really see the update as a new OS or just a firmware update

Well, I tend to think f/w updates are for bug fixes, version changes are for new features.

I think the argument that other phones have had this feature is flawed, the blackberry had push Email well before other manufactures, did you see Nokia updating all there old phones to handle this?.

I think @Cub has hit the nail on the head, I've never had a phone in my life were the shelf life seemed to last so long.

eg. If say you bought the Original HTC Touch that actually came out after the Iphone, the last update was in Aug 2008 and that was just a Hotfix, in fact all updates have been just Hotfixes no new features added.

So even if you had bought the original IPhone your still getting new features etc, but if you had bought a HTC Touch then that's it, no more updates for you.

So even if I had to pay the $10 for the update, to me it just seems well worth it.

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Cub

4:20 PM on 18 June, 2009

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@ILG - People are calling Windows 7 and Snow Leopard whole new OS' when they're both nothing more than much needed Service Packs. iPhone OS 3.0 has more new user-visible features than both of those put together!

You need to look at what's new beneath the hood as much as the you admire the new paint job - the activation of all the new developer APIs opens up so many possibilities that just weren't possible before, and probably aren't possible at all on other devices.

Also, the full OS 3.0 was developed with the new 3GS model in mind with it's new hardware features; in the same way that Vista Super Ultimate edition was developed with a £2,000 PC in mind. Microsoft cut down a version of Vista for your lesser machine that doesn't have the technical prowess for all the graphical features, and Apple removed the features that *apparently* won't work on previous models so we could still get what would work.

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xbrumster

7:53 PM on 18 June, 2009

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oh.. I so look forward to dev team's unlock

Bring it on O2, dump you forever

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ffrankmccaffery

10:57 PM on 18 June, 2009

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keith and cub: This update also includes security patches which as far as i understand are not available separately. Does microsoft charge for security updates? This is a particulary underhand practice dont you think?

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Jay4d0

11:19 PM on 18 June, 2009

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@Virbo

Why did you do it then if you weren't 100% sure!

luckily for you the 7A341 or gold master firmware is the full and final retail edition so you can't update because you already have it.

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Kaiser202

11:44 PM on 18 June, 2009

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OMFG APPLE SUCK SO BAD.

They actually stole from me!!!

OS 3.0 update forces you to reset your iPhone, which literally means delete everything from it, and when I restore from the backup it said it made, half my apps aren't there, and the Apple website says I need to buy them again!

Most ordacious of them, they say I should make regular backups! I USED THEIR UTILITY TO BACK IT UP AND IT DIDNT WORK PROPERLY.

I'm angry, they literally stole directly and unapologetically from me! I knew I should never trust the money grabbing bastards!

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Keithe6e

12:40 PM on 19 June, 2009

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@Kaiser202:

Yeah, some of my Apps went missing, but don't worry you don't have to pay for them again. When you go to purchase it will know you've already bought and offer to re-download. Not sure why some Apps went missing and others didn't, I think it might be related to deleting an App via the Iphone this then turned the SyncAll option off, because the Apps that didn't seem to come back appeared to be the newest onces I installed.

@ffrankmccaffery, Yes, unless UAE is now part of XP, and M$ will even charge you for DX10 even though DX10 is possible in XP. And apart from this the IPhone OS3 is free. Also what security vulnerability is missing in the last OS2 update?

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ffrankmccaffery

2:06 PM on 19 June, 2009

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Keith: i think you mean UAC and no it isnt a part of XP. And DX10 are a suite of multimedia API's and are hardly critical to the secure running of a computer. iphone os3 is not free for ipod touch users just as os2 wasnt for owners of the first generation touch.

You macheads really are special, blithely buying anything with an apple logo and further defending it beyond all reason and logic on here and every other message board and forum you infest

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Keithe6e

12:26 AM on 20 June, 2009

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@ffrankmccaffery: Yes, UAC, totally forgot M$ acronym with it been the first thing I turned off when I installed Vista.

The point about DX10 is how M$ have used it as an excuse to charge more for a feature that easily could have been put in XP. And what security vulnerability are you on about in OS2 that wasn't fixed in the last OS2 update?. And didn't you notice I said IPhone OS3, to make the point it's FREE for Iphone users?. And for Ipod users, yeah you got to feel sorry for them having to take out a second mortgage to pay the $10 upgrade fee. And I must say you MacHaters really are very very special, or very very poor if $10 really hurts you so much.

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ffrankmccaffery

1:34 PM on 20 June, 2009

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Keith: its funny how you berate microsoft for charging extra for something that should be free and excuse apple and instead turn on the user for not paying up. How old are you?

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Keithe6e

9:56 PM on 20 June, 2009

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@ffrankmccaffery: What on Earth are you on about. Please read, and try not doing the "how old are you Banta!!", that in itself is only showing up your mental age. You obviously couldn't work out who I really was berating, maybe your not from the UK and my sarcasm was lost on you.

btw. I don't believe everything Apple does is golddust, and I don't think everything M$ does is bad either. But I'm old enough to understand whatever either company does there not going to do for nothing. I'd also be happy if I had to pay $10 for the I-Phone upgrade, I really am struggling to see what sensible gripe you have, apart from just having a childish AppleBash.

Anyway, if obviously don't like Apple or the I-Phone, good for you. I personally don't like the Nokia's / HTC / Blackberry etc, but I wouldn't say there bad phones, just not for me. The I-Phone was the first ever Apple device I've bought, and it's the first mobile phone I feel I've got the most pleasure & use out off.

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ffrankmccaffery

6:54 PM on 21 June, 2009

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well keith you really do struggle and by the way i am from the uk. i doubt anyone else understands your humour either - unintentional perhaps

why should ipod touch owners pay for updates? especially when those include important security updates

id hop off back to xbox live kid if i were you, your only embarrassing yourself here

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Keithe6e

12:48 PM on 22 June, 2009

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@ffrankmccaffery,

I'll ask again, what important security updates?

What exactly am I struggling with,. I believe $10 for an OS upgrade seems fair, you believe its day light robbery, I'm sorry but after all your very well thought out debate I'm still in the "seems fair" camp.

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