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Ohmz

2:26 PM on 18 May, 2009

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I gotta avoid these 16:9 panels. Why oh why would I want to lose 120 vertical pixels for some better movie watching (a rarity on my PC)? Damn this weird obsession!

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Gordon394

2:40 PM on 18 May, 2009

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@Ohmz because you also gain more horizontal pixels? Give and take...

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Ohmz

2:45 PM on 18 May, 2009

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@ Gordon, so lose 120 and gain 20? Something doesn't quite add up...

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Gordon394

2:47 PM on 18 May, 2009

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Depends on the size of monitor you want. On a typical 22in 16:10 panel you get a native 1680 x 1050 resolution. On a 22in 16:9 panel you generally get a native 1920 x 1080 resolution.

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Ohmz

2:51 PM on 18 May, 2009

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@ Gordon, I was referring more to 1900x1200 than screen size. I don't really care if it's 20 inches or 23 inches as long as it's a good resolution. I can see the confusion now!

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Ardjuna

3:22 PM on 18 May, 2009

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@Ohmz:

Unfortunately, 16:9 is slowly becoming the industry standard, and one of the reasons is that panels are slightly cheaper to produce. Another is convergence between monitor and television standards (which will hopefully clear up a lot of the confusion regarding resolutions and aspect ratios).

But I'm with you on mourning the slow demise of 16:10, for productivity and RTS games alone...

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Xiphias

4:31 PM on 18 May, 2009

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With the demise of CRTs and the lack of new 4:3 monitors it does appear that cost rather than suitibility is the driver of the monitor market. Unfortunately, the technology doesn't appear as if it'll mature any time soon so we'll probably be putting up with this nonsense for a while.

@Gordon: But it's perfectly possible to make 1920x1200 22" panels, the only reason 22" 16:9 panels use that resolution is because 1280x720 would be too coarse at 22".

Oh, and has Samsung hired any NEC designers recently? That navy shot looks like it should have an NEC badge on it, apart from the square base.

I wonder what these new cPVA monitors are like in terms of black-crush. 3000:1 contrast ratio sounds nice, although this being Samsung I'll wait until it's actually verified before I believe it. At those sorts of price I'd expect pretty rudimentry software though - the 1:1 support and an autopivot are probably nonexistant.

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Helmore

5:16 PM on 18 May, 2009

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Damn I was also hoping for some new nice 1920x1200 resolution monitors. Something that is around 23" in diameter, consumes less than 40 Watts and has a refresh rate of 120 Hz. would be awesome. Just make sure it's using a PVA or IPS based panel.

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Xiphias

6:17 PM on 18 May, 2009

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@Helmore: Don't forget the perfect black levels, height adjustable stand that goes down to the desktop, great interpolation and perfect 1:1 mapping for every resolution. (H-IPS with A-TW would be my choice)

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xenos

10:23 PM on 18 May, 2009

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*Cough* BenQ FP241W

Whats with all this 16:9, its a pain in the arse for a workstation.

The HP 24" IPS ain't bad either if you can deal with the stand. (Sorry cant remember model number.)

Have to say I haven't seen much else recently that comes close to either in terms of being the right size, price and quality.

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Xiphias

12:15 AM on 19 May, 2009

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The FP241W doesn't have great black levels by today's standards though, I heard it described as silvery blacks. Also, what's wrong with the stand on the HP LP2475W? The TFTCentral review described it as very smooth and while the height adjustment doesn't go quite as low as it could it seems very good overall.

My main issue with the HP LP2475W was that it apparently has white glows in the corners on a black screen as well as the quality assurance troubles that have been reported.

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Ardjuna

11:02 AM on 19 May, 2009

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@Xiphias:

Why not refer to our own review, which also praises the stand (and the rest) ;) {http://www.trustedreviews.com/monitors/review/2009/03/27/HP-LP2475w---24in-H-IPS-Display/p1}.

As to the quality issues, the comments make for interesting reading.

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stranded

11:18 AM on 19 May, 2009

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I hope these monitors will have a decent image quality. Finally Samsung begins to seem interesting to me in terms of product design. Seems no ridiculous curves and red lines anymore.

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Ardjuna

3:02 PM on 19 May, 2009

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@stranded:

Oh, the red lines are still there with the Lavender range :)

But I must admit that to me, the Navy range holds greater visual appeal with its industrial, rugged looks.

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