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Coffee_With_Bailey's

12:39 AM on 28 September, 2009

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There's still no exclusive games on the Sony that grab me this generation - and for me Forza 3 (demo now available on live) is proving more exciting than Gran Tourismo 5 - so despite already having a launch 360, I'd probably go for the Xbox over the PS3, so I can race the wife!

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Jay4d0

1:35 AM on 28 September, 2009

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PS3 any day games are great and the multimedia front is the icing but I own both so game exclusives don't concern me

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Action

7:02 AM on 28 September, 2009

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Australian Amazon? I didn't know Amazon was setting up in Oz - does it operate under a different name?

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ThaDon

8:12 AM on 28 September, 2009

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This'll probably make me sound reaaally old, but does a vanilla PS3 still play PS2 games, or do i have to keep a slim nearby for nostalgia?

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needlegun

9:29 AM on 28 September, 2009

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As a casual (aka pretty useless) gamer with lots of media on a Mac that I want to stream to my AV setup in the lounge, the XBox 360 currently fills this niche. I guess the temptation for me is Blu-Ray + masses of space for storing content locally when it comes to this PS3 Slim, and now that the price of the BDPS360 on Amazon has jumped from £149 to £172, it's more tempting. Still a lot of money though.

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Mik3yB

10:10 AM on 28 September, 2009

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I want, no, need a PS3 now! I've been holding off for a year or so now (very happy with the 360 and Wii).

For me, the PS3 has a decent amount of storage space even before this larger version, Blu-Ray, Uncharted 1 & 2 and The Last Gardian (Team ICO's new game) among others.

The only thing that I'm curious about though is will my 720p 32" Bravia still be up to it or do I need to buy a bigger 1080p telly (esp. for Blu Ray)? I'll also start having to by more games and start a collection of Blu-Rays.. damn :D

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hankb6d

11:58 AM on 28 September, 2009

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@ThaDon

I dunno what a vanilla PS3 is but no, you would need the choc chip version. Word on the street is Sony are working on a PS2 emulator right now. I want one for Uncharted 2 but to buy one for a game with dodgy enemy AI although outstanding would be a little dumb.

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Cub

12:16 PM on 28 September, 2009

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@TheDon - Only the original 60Gb PS3 Chubbies play nicely with PS2 disks, so you'll need to keep the PS2 around if you want to play those games... I did for a while but there's such a great catalogue of games for the PS3 now that I eventually got rid of it.

@hank - the current word on the street is that Sony are planning on releasing as many PS2 titles as possible as downloadable titles on the PSN, there-by making money from nostalgia. Also, what game are you making reference to with your dodgy AI comment? It can't be Uncharted 2 which you mention in the same sentence as every review and preview I've read has highly praised the AI, along with everything else in the game!

As it is, my PS3 chubby's sitting happily at 250Gb thanks to an easily upgradable HDD...

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drdark

1:17 PM on 28 September, 2009

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@Cub: Damn, first time I can't contradict anything in your comments :P.

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MarioM

1:30 PM on 28 September, 2009

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I bought the slim at Tesco for £229, then a 500Gb replacement HD from Ebuyer for £69. Not a bad deal! The drive is really easy to swap out, and it's best to do it before you start using the PS3 so you don't have to backup all your saves etc.

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Cub

1:30 PM on 28 September, 2009

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@DrDark - You mean, I'm *not* going to get counter your misunderstandings this time? Damn... ;)

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hankb6d

2:52 PM on 28 September, 2009

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@cub

The "Dodgy AI" rumour came from the street too. I hope the word is wrong for fans of the game it would be a shame to trip up such a marvel. I am going to miss out, cannot justify swapping platforms for essentially the Uncharted series.

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MaxPower

3:17 PM on 28 September, 2009

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@Mik3yB

720p 32" is fine for PS3 use, unless you are looking for a TV above 40" 1080p isn't a must have feature.

@hank

Dodgy enemy AI, have you got a final release copy? I got one and I see nothing wrong with the AI, infact on normal mode they are much cleverer than previous games, I'll see what they are like on the unlockable difficulty. As of now the only taste the public have got of this game is the online multi-player demo which doesn't have bots, only humans. Best game on the PS3 (even 7th gen consoles bar Super Mario Galaxy) bar none.

@Bailey's_Coffee

The same FM3 demo that has missing textures and streaming issues? Do you live in a different house to your missus? I don't know why you would need two 360s to play FM3 against her? It does have two player split screen yes...

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Cub

5:37 PM on 28 September, 2009

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@Baileys - My apologies, I totally missed your comment on my first reply!

Seriously? There are *no* titles that grab you from the huge array of PS3 exclusives (to name a few: God of War, Killzone, Heavy Rain, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, Gran Turismo (I'll come back to this), Little Big Planet, The Last Guardian, Uncharted, Warhawk, Wipeout). Most tastes are covered in that small list, to say there's nothing there that tickles your fancy is a little fanboyish...

Regard Forza/GT, I've never played Forza (hadn't even heard about it until news of this iteration) so I can't comment on which is better. However, the developers of the game are appalling. I've read numerous stories of their bashing the competitor (our publisher could beat up your publisher, that kind of thing), and even bribing xBoxers into voting for their game (over GT5) in some awards show by offering a free car DLC to all those that vote! They seem to take every opportunity to bad mouth GT5 in the hope that it'll rub off on people...

@Max - I think Baileys is saying that if he had to start from scratch he would go for an xbox... ? Although his point that a playable demo is more exciting than a few teaser videos seems a little unfair :-/

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hankb6d

7:53 PM on 28 September, 2009

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@Max Power The information I gathered from a couple of journo's who have completed the game from tweets. Like I say I hope this is wrong and stop tempting me to spend money, this is a recession.

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rav

9:49 PM on 28 September, 2009

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Should be getting my slim soon. Hope it's as good as everyone makes out.

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hankb6d

9:50 AM on 29 September, 2009

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@cub(AKA Sony Fanboi In Denial)

Daily I deal with massive arrays, the "array" of games you quoted is hardly pants filling. Indeed most of the AAA titles you quoted are garbage to more discerning gamer. As for the Forza/GT thing I think the answer is simple Forza has had two games out in the development time GT5 has had, it's gameplay although I am no fan is superior in every way, huge community customisations and they have not been charged for a poxy demo.

Bribing Xbox owners for awards shows? seriously WTF?

Give up you are putting people off joining the "cult".

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MaxPower

10:42 AM on 29 September, 2009

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@hank

"Bribing Xbox owners for awards shows? seriously WTF?"

That was actually true, well for the most part, there was a FM3 vs GT5 poll on CNet which chespace (the Turn 10 community manager) offered a free 'unicorn' to vote for FM3. The thread is still there on Turn 10 forums if you want to find it.

Also I do believe Cub was quite discerning in his list of games, they really are quite good...

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hankb6d

12:26 PM on 29 September, 2009

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@Max Power

Free unicorns for CNET Awards LOL really well that is very sad I agree. What you really cannot hide from is the unbelievable time it has took to develop GT5 and the bare faced cheek of charging for a demo. I played GT a lot back in the PS2 days but the franchise is dead in my book. Forza is by no means perfect either personally the game demo is far below the par set by hype.

Maybe I am not discerning but none of the games above is a system seller except the uncharted series which I can live without and save pennies for a rainy day.

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Cub

1:14 PM on 29 September, 2009

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@hank - I make no attempt to hide that I am a huge fan of the PS3 (and Apple, for that matter) on this or other sites. That doesn't mean, however, that I spout nothing but fanboy trash. Out of interest, do you deny your inner fanboy? 'cause it's certainly there and in strong control. To call Gran Turismo, Uncharted and God of War, garbage, even if you're not a fan of the genre, is one of the most fanboish things I've read in these comments. I mean, seriously, are you still trying to hide your love for MS?

There's dozens of cliches around longer waiting equaling better products, that may not always be the case but lets wait until a comparison can be run and do it fairly...

@Max - thanks for clarifying, I couldn't remember the details. The fact that it was a simple poll on a website demeans their actions further, surely?

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hankb6d

6:02 PM on 29 September, 2009

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@cub

I'm afraid I have to own up to my own illiteracy in my previous posts. I am sure I have waxed lyrical about Uncharted or am I wrong and you cannot read. Sorry no love lost with MS although they do a ton of things Sony do not do, I have to admire them. All you seem to do is list sub par Sony exclusives that generally no one cares for, I smell elitism like a blackened MS console. Yuo should work for Sony LOL

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Gran Turismo? Broken gameplay from birth, and charging for a demo (two years ago now?) that is some nerve.

God Of War Repetitive slasher with nice visuals.

LBP Rag Dolls? Level creation? Too kiddie and no time for me.

Killzone? A technically nice graphic representation with broken gameplay.

I am too bored to go through the rest.

Adios for now, I must clean my windows LOL

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