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Lord Comben III

10:00 AM on 30 December, 2009

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So if this is an HTC phone is it the Bravo that was leaked as one of their 2010 range?

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DeanApiagyeiWilliams

10:06 AM on 30 December, 2009

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T-Mobile UK better be getting this, seeing as they have yet to announce they will be carrying the iPhone!

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Jay4d0

12:31 PM on 30 December, 2009

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really hope the price converts like that over here £370 for an unlocked, uncripled device = steal of a price

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Hallainzil

1:25 PM on 30 December, 2009

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Used one a few days ago - it feels very very snappy, and the camera's much much better than the Hero's.

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xbrumster

1:48 PM on 30 December, 2009

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it doesnt look appealing to me.. try harder on the design Google.

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Mo

2:15 PM on 30 December, 2009

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@Jay Oooh...I like that price! Let's just hope we don't get taxed heavily for living across the pond.

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Williamn

4:26 PM on 30 December, 2009

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£370 is only a steal of a price if the handset is "top of the range".

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Xiphias

5:10 PM on 30 December, 2009

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@Jay: That'll be the price before VAT so you can add another £65 to that price.

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Darfuria

5:29 PM on 30 December, 2009

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Ugh, T-mobile are lousy. It better not be exclusive.

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xenos

6:25 PM on 30 December, 2009

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Lets hope it remains true to the open source OS and is available sim free! Looks like a potentially very nice piece of kit!

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Jay4d0

1:45 PM on 31 December, 2009

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@ xenos: yes it's going to be sim free / unlocked, I dont know why anyone would buy it on contract it usually works out cheeper to buy the handset then get a sim only tarrif, plus your not tied into a very very long contract, and you can change networks to the best deal - people just don't bother to crunch the numbers.

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Chris

4:42 PM on 31 December, 2009

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This isn't an HTC branded device so it won't have their Sense UI enhancements, although I imagine the HTC Bravo would. Kudos to Google, but I think I'll wait for the HTC branded version. That is, unless Google still have a few tricks up Android's sleeve that they haven't told us about yet.

Something concerns me though. The invitation was only sent to US journos and the only prices we have are in dollars, which makes me think that maybe this phone won't be sold outside the US for some time.

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Gordon394

4:55 PM on 31 December, 2009

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@Chris - I'd disagree. The Sense UI needs to be updated each time to be compatible with each new Android update. I think I'd rather have a Google device which will be able to receive new firmware as and when it comes out.

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Jay4d0

5:07 PM on 31 December, 2009

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agree 100% with Gordon

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Chris

7:30 PM on 31 December, 2009

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Just to clarify, of course we'd all prefer a perfect vanilla Google device that's capable of receiving OTA updates, but I'm assuming that HTC's additions will add value that might make the disadvantages worthwhile. Perhaps not, but I'll wait and see what they come up with for the Bravo and 2.0 Hero update.

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rav

3:22 AM on 1 January, 2010

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@Gordon

It is a slight pain having to wait for a 2.0 update for my Hero but for me I'd rather have Sense. Stock Android is too bare bones. There's so many small enhancements that make all the difference for usability.

Of course the only problem is I am dependent on HTC being bothered to actually do the updates at all. Who knows when they'll stop Supporting Hero updates. Although I suppose there's always XDA after that.

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Bluepork

12:24 PM on 1 January, 2010

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Would I be correct in thinking that the new version of Android, (ie version 2.0) is better designed, so it might render some of the advantages of HTC's sense interface redundant?

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rav

2:10 PM on 1 January, 2010

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Haven't tried it yet but from what I've seen only partially. Still doesn't have things like predictive dialing, the way better HTC keyboards, the 7 homescreens + scenes, some nice widgets, better contacts management, all round more polished look.......

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Jay4d0

1:49 PM on 3 January, 2010

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@ravmania: predictive dialing? I have to say I've never heard of that before surely you just use a contact which you can easily search through?

I hope they fit it with multitouch for the europe market as I know the proplems why they can't are only in the US as demonstrated on the Moto Droid/Milestone

@Xiphias: $530 = £327 so with VAT it should be £384

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Chris

9:01 PM on 3 January, 2010

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@Jay: If you can stand the cheesy American-ness of this video, the first 30 seconds shows predictive dialling in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwLp0s_e_yE

This allows any contact in a large address book to be dialled within a few seconds of picking up the phone. It's a small feature, and hardly an HTC innovation, but it's one of many useful things that HTC have added to Android.

As Bluepork points out, many of Sense's additional features are replicated in some fashion by the new features of version 2.0, including social networking integration. That said, I'd wait and see what HTC's integration with those new features will look like.

I think the Nexus is US-centric for now so I'm not expecting multitouch, but maybe they'll surprise us...

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Jay4d0

9:10 PM on 5 January, 2010

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@ Chris: yeah I get what you mean now, although with you can just click search and start typing the name it will show the relevant contacts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qy6aGFSLFo at 3:42), although this isn't as smooth as the HTC solution.

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