Unfortunately I'll be 7-9 months into an 18/24 month contract when these devices start becoming available (same thing happened to me when v6 came out, Grr!), but they're taking grand leaps this time rather than baby-steps.
So... who's going to make me a WPS7 skin for my v6.5 phone? Form an orderly line please...
Although I think I'll stick with Android I think it looks good. They've done their own thing and not tried to just copy.
Everyone keeps saying that by the time this comes out Android/iPhone will be even more advanced but do you really see either platform changing that radically in the meantime?
Now fingers crossed the best bits get copied/ported to Android!
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Oh dear...I must be a wrong'un - I think i'll stick with 6.5X over that mickey mouse OS for kids. What a let down! At first glimpse they appear to have removed so much functionality and flexibility that it's lost a lot of it's appeal. I'm sure after a years worth of updates, when my contract expires on the HD2, it'll be worth another look. Ho-Hum. There's just no pleasing some people!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to leave my iPhone behind, but Microsoft have done the decent thing and literally scrapped all their old code and started a'fresh. Looks swish. No doubt that like the Zune (snigger...) it won't work on a Mac anyways, so even if I did want one, it wouldn't be possible...
@lifethroughalens - like it or not, this is the kind of functional, integrated, fun and easy to use device that people want these days; the vast majority of people just want their devices to work, and work together at that, it’s nice to see MS understand this now. Android would be your new toy of choice if you want something to tinker on, no?
@Prem - you think so? Integrated xBox live/games, facebook... Is that really what businesses want? MS are surely aiming for personal use here.
@Gorden - are you sure? All other sites list it as Windows Phone 7 Series... as does the official site www.windowsphone7series.com - although it's servers are unavailable at the moment!
I think MS have done the unimaginable and come up with something fresh, exciting, intuitive and useful that will appeal to both business and casual users. I'm amazed with all the "leaks" nobody was even near to guessing what they had. And people were impressed when Palm came out with WebOS; I wonder where this will leave Palm & Blackberry. Can they compete with the desktop triumvirate of MS, Google & Apple? Where is Nokia now? Is there room for niche players like Else?
Most of us change our phones every year or two and we want something fresh. I think this gives MS a chance, one people saying "but Apple (and Android) have so many apps" forget. Plus this is a radically different platform, one that negates apps to an extent. People might invest in their iPhone with apps and such, but when they can get better across the board functionality, and potentially much better games there's less reason to stick with their iPhone when the contract ends.
I think MS have cleverly looked at the market, seen that they cannot be just another me too, thrown away the past, thought outside the box and come up with a clever new OS which competes on every level and has answers for all the reasons you might otherwise choose a different phone. Think Different, sorry whose slogan is that? It's a brave and broad vision and one that whether it succeeds or not makes the mobile phone OS game all the more exciting for consumers. I think this time next year a lot of people will have a hard choice in choosing their next phone. It doesn't matter that it's a year, or more, MS have deep pockets and can wait to climb their way, if not to the top, then at least to sharing a large slice of the pie.
To quote Kanye West... Me likey! It looks like it does everything I'd want out of the box (particularly Facebook integration and multimedia support). Part of me agrees with lifethroughalens's sentiment though, i kinda like the austere, wordy but efficient Windows Today screens of old. Though the screenshots do look significantly more adult than the iPhone's primary coloured icons.
Really like the look of the 'Zune Phone'. It looks more pocket friendly than most current smarts. If it lives up to it's multimedia pretensions i.e. great sound quality through 3.5mm jack, will talk to my AV receiver and bluetooth car stereo, and has LOTS of storage potential (microSD-XC please?) then i could be sold this winter...
...Assuming the HTC Bravo doesn't steal my heart (and money) in the meantime!
@HK - Wow, do you have a Bumper Book of Metaphors there on your desk? Concur though, MS have cleverly thought through the problem of breaking down the brand loyalty built up by the paid-for apps craze. Well done them.
Apps wont be a problem I think...it'll have the latest .net framework and MS will very quickly have a massive developer support infrastructure in place (as already evidenced by the msdn channel9 vid giving more details about wp7s: http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/LauraFoy/First-Look-Windows-Phone-7-Series-Hands-on-Demo/)
I find those over-sized letters very annoying. They're so in your face. When I click on Music or whatever, thats the function I want to use and whats the point to use large space on the top just to show you where you are. And those boring fonts look just so dated to me.
not very impressed, looks a lot more complicated than android & iphone & symbian etc.
@cjb: Great link - once you remove the trailing ')'. Really interesting new direction. It might just work. They'll need to embrace incremental updates IMO though.
@xbrumster - That over-sized text at the top also functions as a back button, just hitting it brings you back one level in the menu. Pretty handy if you ask me, especially in the Zune HD where there is not dedicated back button.
I'm with the Register on this one. What I want is a device that uses these nice faster processors *and* gives me the flexibility I had with my TyTN II.
Actually I'm using "Bumper Book of Flowery Language", but they're from the same series.
It's interesting to see such a reactive response to the market from MS, it's different from their usual attempts to bully and buy out. They deserve a lot of credit for taking this approach, it's the kind of thing you expect from a new company trying to break into a market, not an old dog.
Also the more I look at it, THIS is the OS you'd want on something like an iPad. Sure there's questions still to be answered about multi-tasking, 3rd party development, customisation and the web browser - but whatever the answers it's almost certain to be more open than the stance Apple takes. I wonder if MS have any plans to put this onto tablets. If they are worried about Chrome OS, Android, etc then this could be the answer.
@xbrumster: I do also see your point, it seems a little angular & harsh. I think it depends just how custimisable it'll be. Whether or not xda-devs can skin it. Still lots to find out before I'd consider WinPho7 but my contract isn't up for ages.
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It certainly looks impressive, especially the typeface used and I'm particularly looking forward to seeing the 'sub pixel positioning' technology displayed in person. If it's one thing that Microsoft do well is their ability at rendering fonts clearly on screen.
Looks like it doesn't use screen space very efficiently. The words go off the edge of the screen and you have to scroll on the main page because "pictures" is a unnecessarily" huge button. Not for me thanks. I like a list of recent contacts rather than a grid of portraits. Who has a picture for everyone in their address book? You'd have to live with a picture box with "?" in it... or switch to list view.. so ignore that part of the video, do they have an options box for that? Plus a square notification box which has to flip over and can't display the message and the person who's sent it at the same time? That's stupid.
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for me, it was the apps that drew me to the iphone. i'd buy any phone with wps7 this in a heart beat if it had a decent app catalogue of useful stuff (and games) if it meant i could avoid using itunes.
I've watched the videos again, and... it's growing on me. The pages with large text looked weird at first, but now that I've seen the screenshots I'm kind of understanding the concept that you're viewing a section of a "Desktop-life" page. It could be their usability studies found that after a while we start instinctively learning where our favourite things are on these virtual desktops and start navigating to them much quicker. Anyway, that's just an idea, but the fact it has me excited to be considering it means they're onto a good thing.
@jopey: If the Facebook/Msn/etc. integration is as tight as they're indicating then images could be fetched from profile pictures on the respective social networks and/or IM streams. There's a handy little app on the N900 called Hermes which does this, so that'd make getting mugshots easier ;).
Late reply.. but @drdark My HTC hero draws in facebook data and photos and links them to my google contacts, so I don't doubt they can do that. But you still need something for all those contacts who don't have a facebook or whatever account.. What use is that singular box for those contacts? My Hero has words under the picture boxes.. which would bork all the fancy UI on this WM7..
@HisEnormity - much as I hate Windows Mobile (a view I've expressed innumerable times on the site), I've used 7 Series and it actually looks great and is seamless and intuitive. Never thought I'd say that!
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