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CptKirk

1:22 AM on 22 June, 2009

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Long live Steve.

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hankb6d

2:07 AM on 22 June, 2009

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Jobs should retire he's only 54 has pots of cash and has achieved what had to be achieved, this makes no sense to me.

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Gordon394

2:35 AM on 22 June, 2009

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@hank - love or hate him he simply has a passion for the technology. Jobs has taken a £1 annual salary for a number of years now.

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Pbryanw

2:57 AM on 22 June, 2009

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I hope for a speedy recovery too if at all possible, although his health problems do seem a bit more serious then we were first led to believe.

I think the tech world, and Apple, would be a poorer place without Steve Jobs. Maybe we'll never see him in a full-time role at Apple again, or in charge of another keynote - though I hope I'm proved wrong.

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Ironduke

3:04 AM on 22 June, 2009

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he gets paid in stock

The great one will return in 2k9, but if he does step down soon,I want Ives to take over

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GoldenGuy

4:54 AM on 22 June, 2009

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Ah, The Mighty Jonny Ive taking over would be awesome.

"In many ways... I think it's more beautiful INternally... than it is EXternally."

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Greg17b

6:59 AM on 22 June, 2009

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Gordon said on 22nd June 2009 "@hank - love or hate him he simply has a passion for the technology. Jobs has taken a £1 annual salary for a number of years now."

Now now Gordon - if you were writing a product review you'd be more balanced, and also mention the tens of millions of dollars worth of stock options that Jobs has been paid, some of which also were backdated, not disclosed and indeed fraud.

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2007/2007-70.htm

I don't disagree with the contribution Jobs has made, but if you're going to make claism such as he only works for a pound a year, please balance it out with the truth.

For his part, Jobs claimed on several occasions that he didn't want the money, he just wanted the respect..

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Gordon394

7:11 AM on 22 June, 2009

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@Greg - Now, now Greg, this isn't actually quite correct. The case you refer to was against Apple General Counsel and Secretary Nancy Heinen:

"Heinen is charged with, among other things, violating the antifraud provisions of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, lying to Apple's auditors, and violating prohibitions on circumventing internal controls."

and The Commission concluded:

"it would not bring any enforcement action against Apple based in part on its swift, extensive, and extraordinary cooperation in the Commission's investigation. Apple's cooperation consisted of, among other things, prompt self-reporting, an independent internal investigation, the sharing of the results of that investigation with the government, and the implementation of new controls designed to prevent the recurrence of fraudulent conduct."

Like you I respect Jobs even if I don't agreed with him all the time. It's a neutral story ;)

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Marko

11:03 AM on 22 June, 2009

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If Steve Jobs wants to keep his health private it's no business of you, me or anyone else to speculate or pass on speculation in order to get a few cheap website hits.

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Gordon394

12:38 PM on 22 June, 2009

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@Marko - agreed entirely, hence my comment: "Love or hate Jobs and these products, their importance cannot be dismissed and on the most human of levels we wish him a speedy recovery."

Unfortunately, the central and near despotic role Jobs has insisted on taking at Apple to shape and drive the company over the last 10 years means investors, traders and customers will never see it this way.

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simonm

1:05 PM on 22 June, 2009

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@Marko - Steve Jobs has been so utterly pivotal in Apple's turnaround that his health problems are material considerations for investors, and Apple as a public company has legal obligations around not concealing such information. This will remain the case as long as he remains CEO.

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hankb6d

1:40 PM on 22 June, 2009

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@gordon I don't know Mr. Jobs personally, so I cannot love or hate him, but a liver transplant is a very serious operation. If you are telling me this man is so obsessed as to getting the Ipod shuffle into an ant form factor on his return or whatever the case may be it sounds pretty dumb to me. I somehow doubt Apple are a one man corporation.

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Gordon394

2:10 PM on 22 June, 2009

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@hank - Got to disagree. People overwork to the detriment of their health for far less. Furthermore, if ever there was a corporate super giant which could potentially be labelled a one man operation it is Apple. Jobs rescued Apple from near bankruptcy when he returned. That is the reason for such concern from investors and coverage in the media.

Gates had Ballmer in the wings, but with Apple most people couldn't even tell you who Tim Cook was 12 months ago.

I'm sure they'll come to the right decisions over time.

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Kanu

11:05 PM on 22 June, 2009

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What next, a daily update on Steve Jobs' bowel movements in order to establish his likely retirement date? A daily sperm count in order to establish the likelihood of him providing a success to the cult leadership?

And what does this junk have to do with the core mission of a website called "Trusted Reviews". Is it a product review? A technology update? Nope

More important, how many groundbreaking consumer products of new technologies have you ignored and NOT reviewed, including the next Popcorn Hour or god knows what, in order to prioritise this tangential and pointless intrusion into someone's personal life and private health matters? Maybe you should publicise the health status of the editores of trusted reviews too. After all, what is good for the goose....

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Geoff Richards

11:44 PM on 22 June, 2009

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@Kanu - I think you'll find the answers to your questions in the comments above, in a more polite and less caustic tone.

For the record, we have separate teams for News and Reviews so whatever your opinion on the validity of this story, its publication has not diminished our ability to publish reviews. Indeed, we publish over 100 detailed, in-depth reviews every month - more than any other publication.

You mention the new Popcorn Hour box - I'm sure our review of the A110 will pave the way for a sample of their latest machine.

And since you ask about the health status of our editors, I am happy to report that Riyad, Ed and Hugo all completed the London to Brighton charity bike ride on Sunday in aid of the British Heart Foundation. They're a little saddle sore and stiff in the leg muscles, but otherwise survived the 56-mile ride. Thanks for asking :)

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Ohmz

12:02 AM on 23 June, 2009

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@ Geoff Richards, and why weren't you in the London to Brighton charity bike ride? Conveniently busy that day? :)

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smc8788

12:09 AM on 23 June, 2009

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@ Kanu - Hehe, anyone would think you were being forced to read this site under duress. You certainly don't seem to enjoy it very much, so might I suggest you look elsewhere if you are that unhappy with the content here?

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Geoff Richards

12:27 AM on 23 June, 2009

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@Ohmz - I'd never survive that long in the saddle, so I scored Support Van Driver duties. 05:30 alarm call, and got home at 19:30 after many hours behind the wheel, and several more trying to find a carpark in Brighton, so I did my part :)

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Kanu

5:27 PM on 24 June, 2009

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There is something called decency and it should preclude dissecting a person's health in public like this.

Note that the writer who responded above tried to fob us off with jokes but clearly has no intention of publisising the health details of the editors of this website.

So before anyone makes excuses, first make a PDF of your entire medical history and post it on the web. NONE of you willl do it, of course...But somebody else, sure yes. That is hypocrisy from journalists.

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Ohmz

6:09 PM on 25 June, 2009

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@ Kanu, Steve Jobs is more important than the entire TR staff combined {sorry guys :)}.

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Kanu

5:24 PM on 3 July, 2009

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"Important" was is not the issue. The issue is whether that is any excuse for violating the guy's privacy.

But in any case even if you used "important" as a yardmark, I am sure these editors of this website here are "important" to their staff, yet they would not dissect their own private health issues to their staff.

So its at the end of the day still a cowardly and rather cheap form of journalism, unfortunately. No excuses can get around that one.

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