ravmaina wrote "Looks nice but unless it's cheaper than a MacBook why would you not just get the real thing?"
well if you require a PC that can run windows out of box then you might need it... But I have very (Very very) much doubt on how a windows pc will work without a proper physical right mouse button.. its a deal breaker for many.. (and the price for me .. :))
It's about time someone offered a 15" laptop to rival the MBP 15" in terms of thickness, weight and build quality so this looks promising but does look too much of an obvious copy.
I have to agree with ravmania, Apple have stuck to the single/no button design for too long just to be different and IMO lose potential switchers because of it, it works well once you get used to it but having 2 buttons is just easier and more obvious to use - no need for HP to copy Apple's approach.
Spectacularly pointless. It's not even as if it's much cheaper than a proper Mac. What is the market for this - people who can't get on with OS X but still desperately want to be seen as Mac owners?
Calling it the Envy at least shows they have a sense of humour. Why not call just call it the Obvious Knock-Off?
@ravmania & MrGodfrey: Eh? For the same reason you'd buy any better product in the style you like? It'd be like not buying a netbook from a manufacturer other than Asus because it's clearly a copy of the eee. From the specs given, HP's offerings are better than the ones from Apple as they're lighter and the 13" has a brighter screen. Obviously you do have to look at the whole package and OS X or Apple's cheaper starting prices may sway a few people back in that direction.
I shan't be getting one since I don't like the mismatched body and screen and the thick bezel but it's good to see some choice, at least in this particular style.
I checked out the video on Engaget, and i've got three things to say about the 13" machine.
1. I am loving the battery life extender option - i'll gladly give away 3-5mm for double battery life so well done HP.s
2. Not liking the lack of optical drive - i'll always buy the machine with one rather than without
3. Having used a properly-implemented single-button mouse on my macbook pro in windows, i can say that it takes all of a few hours to become second nature. Change is good sometimes :)
Xiphias: Yes, but when other manufacturers copied the Eee, they didn't go to the extent of taking away basic features (like a right mouse button) JUST so their machine could look as much like an Eee as possible.
The keen eyed may note a small vertical line at the centre and to the bottom of the mouse pad. It would seem that HP intend this to be a divider between a left and right mouse button click area on the pad. I imagine the implementation won't be perfect, although I'll reserve judgement on that one until HP have refined the pad and its accompanying software. I'm pretty sure it won't be a complete disaster though, HP aren't that dumb.
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