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Frazoire

8:08 AM on 20 November, 2009

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"Messrs Balmer and Gates"

Balmer and Jobs perhaps :)

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TheEvilGenius

9:06 AM on 20 November, 2009

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"And even if these web apps were of sufficient quality the speed of an average household broadband connection wouldn't be quick enough to do them justice."

That pretty much sums up my problem with this OS. That and the fact that I play a lot of games and use things like Photoshop.

I can see this working quite well on public systems like at Libraries of Universities, though, where they would be mostly used for browsing, or word processing.

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robnew

9:14 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Agree that Photoshop etc. won't be web apps anytime soon. But, for most people this seems perfect and it's FREE. Nice of Microsoft to make Office a web app just at the right time...

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ChunkyMonkey

9:19 AM on 20 November, 2009

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I have just watched the video, but I have no idea what the Innernet is...

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ShaunB

9:39 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Perversely, if you've read this article, then Chrome OS probably isn't for you!

However, for a huge number of people it could be (almost) everything they need. My wife only uses here netbook solely for browsing and email and the odd doc. For her this would be perfect.

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Charles2

9:58 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Hmmm. This assumes that one always has the internet, which is by no means always the case in the UK.

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Chocoa

9:58 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Like many I "probably" look forward more on to this.

However, I DO use my system for more than just the Internet. It concerns me that ALL my data would be *out there* ( security?). And what happens to all my data access when my connection goes down and I NEED access? Of course, in addition, it takes bandwidth (=£) to go up and down all the time and surely a hard disk and coming SSD's will be far faster than uping and downing to some hive in the sky - so does that not make all this sloooow? And if its cached locally then sent is that not a compromise?

Naturally Google would love all the world to just use their OS/Apps/storage like any budding megalomaniac, but the truth of the matter may be somewhat different - but I could be wrong of course! Hellllp ;)

But then I am an ole cynic ;)

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Simon Heather

9:59 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Is it called Chrome OS or Chromium? The second video talks about Chromium OS.

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timple

9:59 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Whats the difference between a netbook with Android and a netbook with ChromeOS??

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A Scotland

10:07 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Today's internet speeds may be a hindrance and web apps limited, but I would be interested to know how many years you expect it will be before they will not be? Given the OS is not expected for another 12 months at least, could it be that by the time it hits full release the stage will be ready?

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DEB

10:16 AM on 20 November, 2009

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It is difficult to see this OS a game changer in the desktop/laptop market. They are proposing a hugely cut down OS and software stack. So they are either expecting huge growth in tablet/netbook market or belief cloud based computing will replace the majority of desktop applications.

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HK

11:28 AM on 20 November, 2009

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Well it does go with the original concept of a "netbook" computer. Netbooks have lost their original purpose, people are wanting more from them and being frustrated. Looking a year or so into the future if you could get a netbook for £100-200 which you know is very much a secondary computer, maybe a bit of a eReader on the side then I think it would be massively popular. I can see it giving life to cheap low powered machines, terminals and the like, but the fact it's not touch friendly means some people would still even prefer Android.

Would this be that much better than a Linux install that could do a lot more, that I'm not convinced by. In a year Linux will be a lot more consummer friendly - so it'd be a trade off between raw speed vs. programs, games and general customisation. I think for the sake of 5-10 seconds boot time most people would choose Linux.

Should MS be worried? I don't think too much. There will be some people who'll find this enough, but as Google themselves admit this is a second computer so MS will still get their sales - and they might still get people purchasing Office Web to use with this as well. The fact you can get a decent laptop/netbook with Windows 7 for around £250-300 means this has to come in really cheap to be any threat.

Apple? Well the latest rumours about their tablet are that it'll be in the region of £1500 - so it's a different ball game. But let's imagine that's not the case and they bring out something cheap (hahaha) then I think they should be very worried about Chrome OS.

Overall, I just don't see much need for this, but competition is good and if it makes Apple/Microsoft make their own OS's even leaner then it's a good thing.

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Gordon394

11:52 AM on 20 November, 2009

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@Frazoire - good spot! The perils of working at 2am!

@ShaunB - I think you've just nailed it in a few sentences :)

@Simon Heather - Chromium is the name Google uses for builds it deems are primarily for developers, Chrome is the name it uses for more publicly available versions (even if they are still in beta). I do mention this in the article ;)

@A Scotland - doubtful. Average UK broadband speeds actually went down year on year recently, but that should start to change in 2010. Still there's some way to go. Virgin 50Mbit customers would largely be ok!

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hankb6d

12:35 PM on 20 November, 2009

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Given the amount of hassle Google has provided me with security certificates just to log into "Google" land. I WILL NEVER ADOPT THIS SYSTEM.

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xbrumster

12:39 PM on 20 November, 2009

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lets face it, we think virgin 50mbit is fast while many of our neighbouring countries are implementing 1gb or higher fibre optic broadband. If it takes 10sec to download 500mb, then photoshop or games aint problems at all. It just shows how lagging behind we brits are on broadband speed...

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Gordon394

12:40 PM on 20 November, 2009

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@hank - never, ever had a problem myself.

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BobaFett

1:27 PM on 20 November, 2009

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As far as I can tell there will be local user storage for webapps, so it's not inconceivable to have a web based version of Spotify. I'm guessing also that there will be some capability for running web apps offline. So I would expect Flash, Silverlight or Native Client apps and games to be able to run in an offline mode where the developer has catered for it.

You can read more about user data and security implications here:

http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/protecting-cached-user-data

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Gordon394

1:50 PM on 20 November, 2009

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@BobaFett - agreed and don't forget Napster has also recently gone 100% web based.

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kupfernigk

4:07 PM on 20 November, 2009

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Those of us who remember WfW 3.11 will remember the people asking "what's the point of networking, it's unreliable, exchanging floppies is much easier, and I don't like the idea of keeping the data on the server, suppose it goes down when I need it?"

In the last year I cannot think of a time when I did not have at least one of my Virgin connection or my 3G connection. Even when we moved house, the Virgin connection was turned off in the old house at 11:00 a.m. and it was back on in the new one less than 24 hours later.

I don't believe that Google will totally achieve their ambitions - I suspect we will always need some local resources, and that in practice programs will be updated by a fully automatic version of apt-get running in the background. But, as a system developer, I cannot see how we can continue to use the Internet in the long term without doing something about viruses, spyware, and sheer user cluelessness - and projects like Chrome, Maemo, Android and Moblin are pointing to something that will be good enough for 90% of the public, with the rest buying dedicated computers for graphics, development and control.

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Gordon394

4:49 PM on 20 November, 2009

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@kupfernigk - couldn't say it better myself. In fact, don't think I did ;)

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Xiphias

10:19 PM on 20 November, 2009

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How very un-environmentally friendly of google. We should be reducing waste, making both software and hardware more flexible and modular. Not developing limited use OSs designed for specific hardware platforms that are only useful in addition to what we've already got.

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Tony Young

11:19 AM on 22 November, 2009

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@Gordon - Are you sure that Google are just "optimistic" (Def: A tendency to look on a favourable course of events or conditions) or is their thinking so advanced that this really could be the future - and not just for netbooks.

The internet/connection speeds/cloud apps are developing fast. Just how long did it take for MS to get from Internet Explorer "1" to EI8, for example?

My guess is that within five years this technology or something like it will be found within every flatscreen TV - and within ten years and will therefore be in just about every household - and probably on the wall of every living room.

Some of the geeks won't like this notion of course, they seem to be fast becoming Luddites in their own right. Geekites? Shall we see?

And @Xiphias - just how many boxes do you have in YOUR home? The sales success of the netbook suggests that many homes already have more than one box and that's certainly not been driven by Google's creation of another OS.

And talking of boxes, the cloud can/will eliminate all that software packaging!

It's called logic, Jim.

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hankb6d

2:25 PM on 22 November, 2009

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@gordon lucky you :)

@kupfernigk @xiphias great comments :)

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madeofsquares

10:01 AM on 24 November, 2009

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I know it's early days and it's still in development, but I'm not enjoying the look of the UI so far. Everything full screen? No thanks, doesn't gel with the way I use a computer…

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PoisonJam

2:40 PM on 24 November, 2009

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I wish they'd sort out their branding - is it Chrome or Chromium?!

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Gordon394

3:44 PM on 24 November, 2009

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@Jordan Russell - easy! Chromium is the developer's code for unfinished versions and Chrome is the stable release in public beta and final forms.

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