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Steve

3:32 PM on 8 October, 2009

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No mention of the Vaio X series? I'm going to get one of those babies! Obscenely priced, but it looks sublime! :)

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Gordon394

3:34 PM on 8 October, 2009

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@Steve third paragraph ;) Andy is actually at the official X Series launch today so will no doubt have some first hand opinions soon to follow-up on my IFA report.

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Steve

3:39 PM on 8 October, 2009

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@Gordon

Great, can't wait for that. I know it's early days, but how soon do you think you will get the X series in for a review?

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Gordon394

3:58 PM on 8 October, 2009

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@Steve - hate to break it to you, but the X Series is powered by an Atom CPU and prices look likely to be around £1k+. So we're basically talking about a £1,000 netbook :S

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Steve

4:02 PM on 8 October, 2009

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Yep, 2GHz Atom. Not a problem, it's backed up by a SSD and all I'll use it for is basic stuff & net access (WWAN). Always fancied a netbook, but none of them took my fancy until I saw this. It's about half the weight of my Z series :)

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Gordon394

4:05 PM on 8 October, 2009

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@Steve - be careful, I've a Dell Mini 10 with a 1.6GHz Atom and OCZ SSD and it still crawls along.

I'm pretty sure the Atom will come to be seen as a blight on mobile computing in the next few years. Why Sony couldn't go with a CULV CPU is beyond me?

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Andy0d2

4:15 PM on 8 October, 2009

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due to the lack of space I very much doubt there will be any room for overclocking. TBH if your looking to spend £600 + on a very small and thin laptop for web etc you probably better go with this since I bet you actually get a processor that does something. In sort of related news the netbook I want is coming in the form of the acer 1820p - a windows 7 tablet that has a CULV CPU. Its from the timeline series and thus looks quite good.

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Steve

4:17 PM on 8 October, 2009

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Not sure, I had hoped they'd go for the ULV, but there's a bunch of new Atom CPU's coming in Q1 2010 (codenamed Pine View) that may offer more grunt. Having said that, the Atom CPU uses a tiny amount of power which is why Sony are boasting an 8 hour battery life or 12 with that funny looking add-on.

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Gordon394

4:40 PM on 8 October, 2009

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Oh dear, Andy will likely be able to confirm this later but we are hearing X Series pricing STARTS from £1,299 and rises up to £1,899 depending on spec. All models feature an Atom CPU. *sigh*

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Steve

4:48 PM on 8 October, 2009

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Whaaaaaat! £1899 is taking the Michael! I thought it would be around £1300-£1500 for the top spec model. The US pricing starts at $1299 (£810). Even with tax it's going to be well under £900!

I've never fully understood why Europe and especially the UK ends up paying so much more for hardware & software... :-\

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BOFH UK

4:59 PM on 8 October, 2009

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To comment on the Adamo for a second.... thing is they can tease it all they like, let's see what it's got inside, how much it costs and most importantly when it hits the market. It might be the thinnest now but Apple are surely going to update the Air in the next couple of months and if that update hits before the Adamo goes on sale that 'thinnest' tag may go away very quickly.

As for the X series... anyone that pays £1,300 for an Atom powered machine is certifiable. For that much you could get a proper ultra-thin machine (and for the £1,899 high end price you could have an ultra-thin machine and a decent holiday).

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notbenjamin1

5:08 PM on 8 October, 2009

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We've just had Toshiba in at our work showing off their new products - the T series looks very interesting if you're looking for a small netbook but still need a bit of grunt. CULV processor, 2gb ram, the demo model was running windows 7 ultimate and it was literally flying along. Apparently cost is going to be between the netbook and entry level L series. I think i'd rather go with something like that than one of these dell Adamos

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NicholasName

5:16 PM on 8 October, 2009

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Loving the fickleness of tech journos: "we can happily report that the Atom processor performs admirably", Andy Vandervell, June 2008. From a positive start, it seems the poor little atom has definately become negatively charged. For me, the Atom N280 is easily the best processor on the market right now (money no object), but hey, I'm clearly behind the times.

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MaxPower

6:00 PM on 8 October, 2009

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Ugh, no CULV at that price, another bone headed division by Sony.

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azza21

6:16 PM on 8 October, 2009

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I really thought Sony would be jumping on the Intel i7 mobile chips that are coming out, these Atoms are crap, i know they are ideal for netbooks but companies have going overboard with trying to make these notebooks extremely small. I'd rather have something powerful yet thinn'ish and the TDP on the these i7 is only 25/30w which is still impressively low for such a powerful chip. Intel know this, Atoms will be fazed out 2010.

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Tony Walker

8:39 PM on 8 October, 2009

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@Gordon

Presumably you've got a Dell Mini 10 with a Z530 Atom then, rather than the 10v with an N270. The Z series Atoms are a waste of space and I can't see a 2Ghz part changing that. The N series whilst still underpowered really, *do* do the job of what is needed on a Netbook class device.

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Save yourself a huge wadge of cash, get something that appears to have reasonable performance and looks pretty decent. I'm talking about the HP Mini 311. There will be other cheap netbooks along soon too with Nvidia ION chipsets.

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Steve

12:25 AM on 9 October, 2009

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@ azza21

"i7 is only 25/30w which is still impressively low for such a powerful chip. Intel know this, Atoms will be fazed out 2010."

Thing is, the 2GHz Atom is only 2.4w. The i7 would be at home in desktop replacement systems, not the slim & sleek Vaio's. My Z series kicks out enough heat with a Core 2 Duo inside it, I'd imagine it wouldn't do any better with an i7! There's a new range of Atom chips coming early 2010. I'd imagine they'd still be pretty gutless, but they are not designed for power machines...

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Steve

12:31 AM on 9 October, 2009

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@ Tony Walker

Cheers, the 311 is nice, but I'm still quite keen on the X. Guess I'll wait for a few reviews before I make any decisions. Although the price for the X is pretty outrageous! I can't see it being a big seller at those prices...

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MaxPower

9:59 AM on 9 October, 2009

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The 311 is getting rave reviews all over. I think Ion 2 with CULV will make for a cheap and decently powerful netbook. Seriously if Acer/Asus don't come out with one of these armed with Windows 7 I will be very surprised. News came out this morning that Nvidia are looking to ship Ion 2 late into this year and launch fully in Q1 next year. Intel are updating their CULV line as well.

Hopefully I can replace this netbook for under £400 for something with much more power.

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NJoy

12:54 PM on 9 October, 2009

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azza21, i7s are 45W parts, there aren't many 15" laptops that have cooling solutions capable of it. 25/30W will be dual-core Arrandales

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Nick Gilbert

10:01 AM on 21 October, 2009

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@azza21 Post your source where Intel says they're dropping it next year. I think you just made that up. The Atom uses less than 10% of the power of an i7 and will be around for many years to come as a netbook/laptop CPU. The 25W of an i7 is far too high for a netbook. You'd only get about 40 minutes battery life - not even enough to watch half a DVD.

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