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Thomas

4:10 PM on 3 March, 2009

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Ahem.

mac Pro has Nahalem upgrade!

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ChaosDefinesOrder

5:02 PM on 3 March, 2009

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Article: "the addition of mini-DisplayPort output, meaning you can't add a second monitor without buying a converter."

Erm, doesn't that mean you WILL need a converter to use a second monitor? How much are Apple charging for the miniDP to DVI adapter now? £20? £30?

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chancykid

5:17 PM on 3 March, 2009

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Apple have put the entry price for their cheapest computer by £100. I think some consumers will be put off by this, since Dell and Asus have systems in a similar form factor at a lower price. Having said that, since when has buying Apple been about common sense? It will probably still sell well enough.

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Andy0d2

5:17 PM on 3 March, 2009

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available to order not to ship although most are next week far better than asus who should have released both t91 and s121 by now

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gurnaik

5:17 PM on 3 March, 2009

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A tad overpriced methinks.

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Hugo

5:19 PM on 3 March, 2009

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That sounds about right. On a system the size of an iMac it's insulting having a mini port - it's a blatant "we want to sell accessories."

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Energizer Bunny

5:33 PM on 3 March, 2009

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Did I read that correctly? £750 for 8gb or RAM! How is that even remotely justifiable?

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ThaDon

6:43 PM on 3 March, 2009

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I don't think Apple ever intended to sell to every man and his dog; it seems more a case of luring you in, getting you hooked and then slowly leeching the life outta ya :)

They're making wads of cash, selling more units to first timers, and some of those first-timers are slolwly becoming second-third-all-timers. They're in no rush to please everybody, and when you look at things from that perspective then they're doing very well...

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ffrankmccaffery

7:10 PM on 3 March, 2009

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i think apple are preaching to the choir with this line up as i cant see a first time buyer considering any of this lot in these recession hit times

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rav

7:14 PM on 3 March, 2009

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If the Mac mini was half reasonably prices I'd actually be tempted to get one. No matter Apple. You can keep your 1GB machine for £500 thanks.

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ABG

8:07 PM on 3 March, 2009

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I've been waiting for about a year for the Mac Mini refresh. And the day has arrived.

The £491 2Ghz processor model has increased to um 2Ghz for £500 after a 2 year wait? Prices hugely increased (from £400 entry /£500 premium to £500/£640). Tiny HDDs remain - if they hadn't hiked the prices it would be hard to tell the range had been "updated".

I'm delighted I got my 24" 3.06Ghz iMac last July - its the first time in over 20 years of buying computers that newer models are worse value than the ones they replace. I only wish I'd bought the 1.8Ghz Mac Mini this morning - I wanted it to hook up to the TV. (EEE Box here I come.)

For the past year there has been an argument raging about the future of the Mac Mini. Would Apple kill it off or refresh it? Brilliantly its done both in one go! Think different indeed!

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Steve

8:19 AM on 4 March, 2009

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I think the £1199 iMac represents the best value for money...

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Nick 2

8:46 AM on 4 March, 2009

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Also - the Apple site shows the more expensive Mini as only having a 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo

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MadMacs

10:44 PM on 4 March, 2009

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@ ChaosDefinesOrder ("Erm, doesn't that mean you WILL need a converter to use a second monitor? How much are Apple charging for the miniDP to DVI adapter now? £20? £30?")

They're £20, and this is nothing new, and was the case with the previous iMac's Mini-DVI socket.

@ Energizer ("Did I read that correctly? £750 for 8gb or RAM! How is that even remotely justifiable?")

This isn't Apple's doing, so the justification isn't theirs. You seen any 8GB kits of SO-DIMM DDR3 modules going cheap lately? No, me neither... also, it's £800, and as much as £880 on the 20" iMac!

People need to realise that this worldwide recession thing isn't exclusively effecting the consumer. It's spiralled out of it's control because of the effect on businesses. Why do people expect businesses to lower prices to suit the consumer when it's the businesses that often need to most help? Apple might so far be riding the waves of recession very well, because they're playing smart where other big names have tried to please everyone and taken losses as a result. Just try searching TR for the term "record loss" under News, results speak for themselves. Price increases were expected based on the current worldwide economy, this is the current world as we know it. Buying prices on components have risen tremendously, and that's effecting businesses big and small. Just because you're a multi-billion dollar company like Apple doesn't mean chipmakers, Foxconn, Samsung, Taiwanese fabs like Quanta, and anyone else they buy from is going to give them preferential pricing over anyone else. That's business, no company is out to make losses. And they've proven quarter on quarter that they don't have to follow the rest in keeping pricing lower just to go and make losses at the end of it, which in-turn damages company profile, share prices, customer confidence, all of which can snowball and put a company making record profits one quarter into making record losses the next.

I'm not happy about the price increases, and Apple will try and justify them based on the 'advanced new features', which they have to, and whilst they're a valid argument they're not enough of a case to justify it, but the economy is, and an Apple salesperson won't acknowledge that. But whlst I don't like the increased, I accept them because I'm very aware of the current economical situation. I know as somone inside the IT industry exactly how much more expensive building IT equipment has got.

The good news is, pricing WILL drop eventually, economic recovery pending.

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Tony Walker

5:41 AM on 5 March, 2009

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Apple are taking the michael with this round of high price rises.

The price of the base Mini has remained the same in both Europe €599 and the US $599. So WhyTF have they lobbed an extra £108 on the price in the UK.

Had it remained around £399 I would have instantly purchased one as I have been waiting for this refresh to replace my creaking G4 based Mini.

Barring Apple dropping the price in the next month I will be building a "Hackintosh" unless an nVidia based nettop comes out at a reasonable price and with a bit more oomph than the Atom processor provides.

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ffrankmccaffery

5:24 PM on 5 March, 2009

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oh well it didnt take long for a machead in shaun o'flaherty to creep in to these comment sections and give a typically myopic justification for the company

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MadMacs

9:00 PM on 5 March, 2009

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Haha, Machead or not i'm still fully aware that price rises are an inevitable part of what the economy is currently going through, and I'd be making a simmilar point if any other company was getting flamed for price rises too :) I guess you'll read it here first when Apple's next quarterly results come in! Then you'll see why these guys know what they're doing.

And I creep nowhere, I've been here some time! :)

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Tony Walker

12:15 AM on 6 March, 2009

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Mr O'Flaherty will laugh on the other side of his face when Apple dump their ROI staff for India/China (see Dell for details).

The economy is not going through anything. All you have is a bunch of whiney bankers (and rhyming slang is most appropriate here) piddling about with non-tangeable assets causing governments and companies to overreact to a situation that doesn't actually exist. How do you reckon the British Government can afford to bail out the banks.

Apple are extracting the urine with the prices of the revised Mini and need slapping down.

Do TrustedReviews feel like stepping up to the mark on behalf of the consumer?

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