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Matt G Baish

3:07 PM on 30 September, 2008

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`If you were for some (probably bizarre) reason, holding off buying an Xbox 360 until Jasper units were available ...`

The `bizarre reason` being that, um, they are jasper 65nm less chance for RROD - um, eh?!

Errrr

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lifethroughalens

3:34 PM on 30 September, 2008

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I might now, upgrade from my Sega MegaDrive...we'll see...

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Hugo

3:42 PM on 30 September, 2008

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All consoles have a 3-year RRoD replacement guarantee, so waiting is a bit silly.

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TheEvilGenius

4:18 PM on 30 September, 2008

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Is this the same hardware that's found in the Halo special edition? I think they also benefit from a slightly different layout inside that allows better circulation of air. So. Slap one of these in one of those Lian Li cases, and you might have a reliable piece of kit. Winner!

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Hugo

4:35 PM on 30 September, 2008

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Halo was the 65nm CPU only, before the rest of the Xbox 360 range caught up. This revision is ahead of that one.

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Matt G Baish

4:40 PM on 30 September, 2008

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Thanks for now also labelling me `silly` (I have also been called a `thicko` elsewhere - this really is the place to come and win friends and influence people).

Yes - 3 year RROD warranty - & then wait up to 6 weeks without an Xbox to get it fixed (alternatively ignore the warranty and fix it yourself like me for £15 and a couple of hours tinkeing - but it is NOT as easy as advertised; luckily a `silly thicko` like me also has an Electronic Engineering degree and so it was a pece of pi@@).

I thankyou.

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Matt G Baish

4:44 PM on 30 September, 2008

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@TheEvilGenius: Jasper has 65nm GPU as well I think

You could always wait for the 45nm one (forget the codename) due `next after the next holiday season` (i.e. Xmas 2009 for us brits)

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DEB

4:58 PM on 30 September, 2008

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So you are saying an Xbox is cheaper than a Wii, I can get FFXIII and it won't <del>crap out</del> RRoD on me? Seriously? Here come those flying monkeys again.

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GherkingTR

5:30 PM on 30 September, 2008

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Thanks for covering this, Hugo! Any word on a possible decrease in fan noise?

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Hugo

7:43 PM on 30 September, 2008

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I wish!!

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K

10:29 PM on 30 September, 2008

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I am sparticus! and also now officially "bizarre" (probably)! I am one of those who have been waiting for this news to buy my xbox 360 ever since jasper was announced. I was once an early adopter and got stung when I bought my original xbox. Have now decided to become late adopter and the cheap games/unit price and refined hardware are but three of the benefits!

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Vivid

10:56 PM on 30 September, 2008

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I don't think that the fan noise is a problem I have a release batch X360 and it's not that noisy at all when playing something from the Arcade- even something as processor heavy as Rez (Mmmmm... Rez...). The noise is the POS optical drive, sanctuary from this may come in the form of HDD installations. Y'know those things that we take the piss out of PS3 owners over:

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/39914/Install-Entire-Games-Onto-Xbox-360-Hard-Drive-Purchase-Content-On-PCs

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james1000

9:26 PM on 1 October, 2008

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All well and good but when will the 360 start shipping with a blueray drive? Surely this is a logical progression, and one which is becoming conspicuous by its absence.

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Matt G Baish

10:41 AM on 2 October, 2008

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@james1000 What's a blueray drive?! ;^)

The problem with the current generation of Blu Ray drives is that they are dog slow (hence why PS3 has games that require mandatory installation to the hard-drive before they can be played - i.e. they wouldn't work well (dropping frames etc) if at all, running from the Blu Ray disc).

That, the fact that the jury is still out re: Blu Ray (rubbish sales compared to projected increase once HD-DVD died is not helping) and also that the Xbox360 does not *need* Blu Ray to have great games means that it is unlikely, IMHO, that we will see it on this generation (esp since stand alone Blu ray drives are projected to drop in cost `this holiday season` - i.e. Christmas).

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james1000

2:28 PM on 2 October, 2008

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@james1000 What's a blueray drive?! ;^)

Wow you must have an easy life to pull me up on that. Maybe you should also pull up

http://www.technologybasics.co.uk/WhatIsBlueRayAndHDDVD.html

who also spell it like that. Blu-ray/ blue ray its obvious what I meant.

Anyways I thought Blu-ray was the way forward, and it seemed logical to me its better to fit a game on one disk instead of 2 or 3 and have to keep swapping. Also blu-ray movie playback would be a bonus. Didnt realise the issues you have mentioned so thanks for enlightening me.

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Matt G Baish

3:26 PM on 2 October, 2008

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@james1000 The wink was meant to indicate I was joking - no offence intended.

BTW I don't know of any xbox360 games that are on more than one DVD-Rom (I am sure there are some but I personally don't own any so i guess they are the exception rather than the rule).

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james1000

6:28 PM on 2 October, 2008

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Sorry Matt thought u were nit picking lol. I just heard a debate recently which was outlining the fact a few games would be coming out on blu-ray which would mean 3 dvds on the x-box. No biggy really I just like the idea of killing 2 birds with 1 stone instead of buying multiple pieces of hardware.

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digitalife

12:25 PM on 3 October, 2008

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Ok here's the situation, I was about to buy an XB360 until I read this..... where would I find the LOT number? Are these Jasper equipped versions available now? Confused....... :S

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Matt G Baish

4:21 PM on 3 October, 2008

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@digitalife I believe its on a label (with the barcode possibly?) on the box.

Could be wrong though.

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digitalife

11:54 AM on 4 October, 2008

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Thanks Matt G.

I've been Googling this quite a bit and it's not clear that they have actually been released yet. Also, Lot numbers are not an ideal way of determining whether the unit has the new 65nm GPU's or not. I want to get one soon seeing as there are good offers that are ending shortly.

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digitalife

3:59 PM on 4 October, 2008

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"and with a lot number of 8031 or higher"

I'm sure this should be 0831 or higher......

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