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Xbox 720 will not play pre-owned games says Eidos boss

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According to Eidos president, Ian Livingstone, the Xbox 720 will block any second-hand games using a watermarking system on the disc itself.

Whilst busy promoting the upcoming Crystal Dynamics’ Tomb Raider reboot, Livingstone said that the next-generation Xbox console will not be compatible with used games.

“With the next Xbox, you supposedly have to have an internet connection, and the discs are watermarked, whereby once played on one console it won’t play on another,” he told MCV India.

Both the upcoming Sony PS4 and the yet to be announced Xbox 720 will, as far as we know, utilise a combination of optical disc drives and an increased digital platform. The next-gen Microsoft console is rumoured to have a Blu-ray drive akin to the PS3.

“Boxed games aren’t being abandoned just yet,” added Livingstone. “I think the next iteration of consoles – the PS4 and the next Xbox, have got optical disc drives even though they probably don’t want to have them.”

“Broadband speed globally isn’t at a level that justifies digital-only. So they’ve gone halfway.”

Speculating on the future of games consoles, Livingstone added that these new consoles will be the last of their kind. Any future consoles would be digital only and integrated with TV set top boxes or into the TV itself.

Microsoft has yet to offer any official confirmation on the next-generation Xbox, including a release date. However, CVG’s Rob Crossley tweeted that he had discovered an Xbox 720 release date from a trusted source close to Microsoft, with a launch event occurring on April 26.

Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida confirmed the Sony PS4 will play second-hand games but could require gamers to pay a fee to access the disc’s content, tying the game to a user’s online account.

Do you think the ban on second-hand games will put some gamers off the Xbox 720? Are newly released games too expensive? Let us know what you think at the TrustedReviews Twitter and Facebook pages or the comments section below.

chaosdefinesorder

February 26, 2013, 5:58 pm

console game prices of £60 are an absolute joke. PC games are usually much cheaper and if I add up the number of games I have on Steam and compare to the price they would have been on console, the higher initial outlay on the high-spec gaming rig is mostly recouped...

The only thing that allows many gamers to stomach the ridiculous outlay on new games is being able to trade their old "spent" games for part-trade on the next game, so all this does it massively reduce their prospective future sales.

I can see why they want to do this, but it's just going to push some people towards piracy in order to "afford" the latest release...

Guest

February 26, 2013, 6:36 pm

Is this also saying that if your console breaks and you have to buy a new one, then you will also have to buy the game again? Surely a game will have to be tied to your account somehow, not the physical hardware itself?!? Will make Cloud Storage pretty redundant if that is the case!

Bugblatter

February 26, 2013, 6:46 pm

If you can't sell the games or buy them second-hand then they need to make them sunstantially cheaper. If they don't then MS will lose this console generation.

Jeremy Powers

February 26, 2013, 7:58 pm

This makes me very sad gaming is one of the most $$$$$ hobbies you can have and this takes it to another lv....

Tommy Parr

February 26, 2013, 8:36 pm

games are to expensive as it is to buy a game brand new everytime, not to mention what happens if your system "rrod's" or craps out. do you have to go back out a buy brand new games for a system that malfunctioned? this is going to a BIG mistake on their part... to knock out second hand games kills places like gamefly and eb and gamestop. its ridiculous to do this and EXPECT everyone to be ok.... I just assume to spend my money on a better cpu to play pc games than the probably 600 price tag this thing will have

adz

February 26, 2013, 10:57 pm

This would be a deal breaker for me. I will be buying the ps4 (as long as it plays 2nd hand)

Dale Foster

February 26, 2013, 11:11 pm

I call bullshit... think Ian just regurgitated what was already being posted online about it.

MavusiKenpachi

February 27, 2013, 9:31 am

I think Sony has the better approach: tying a game to your online account instead of your console means you can take it to a friend's house and play it or if your PS4 is damaged (or you buy a second one because you're a spoilt brat), you still get to play the game you already paid for.

JMR

February 27, 2013, 1:33 pm

It’s unacceptable. Plus it may go against EU
competition rules and intellectual property exhaustion rights rules.

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DSL Slaphead

February 27, 2013, 1:49 pm

Absolute deal breaker for me and lots of friends. If they go ahead with this they might as well not launch the console at all as the PS4 would win the next gen battle and I would not even call it a battle as MS would have hibbled themselves so badly.

Reckoning

February 27, 2013, 8:13 pm

Wow, even the Wii U can be beat the next xbox, i just find that funny :P

markvii1

March 1, 2013, 1:20 am

If I cannot sell or purchase second-hand games then that new game needs to be a complete title at release. No more DLC. Otherwise Microsoft is pulling out of both pockets at the same time and I find that extremely unfair. New games cost $60 at release and most have an $80 dollar collectors option with "exclusive content" and then down the road there is another $30-50 dollars on DLC. If I am no longer able to get the game at a discounted price then all the DLC and exclusive content should be on that disc from the start.

Dillhondo

March 2, 2013, 12:20 pm

If PS is smart they will not go this route and they will gain a whole new loyalty crossover that they couldn't have dreamed of.... R.I.P. EB games...

It will be tied to your account, just like everything you DLC now, you can erase it at anytime and redownload at anytime, but this would still suck and the thought of buying a new xbox because MS can't build a reliable console then waiting four days for all my games to finish downloading just sucks, but I assume that it would only be in the case of a faulty Hard drive, if they don't hardwire that in to gouge more bucks from us. Getting pretty tired of MS's.. BS

john Eastwood

March 2, 2013, 7:07 pm

This is not even close to being true, why spread lies and rumors that have not substantial claim or even credibility. What a waste of time and resources all the game hype is bought and sold at used games store so even microsoft knows this and would never do something this dumb. Find some proof before you start spreading BS!

john Eastwood

March 2, 2013, 7:09 pm

So your proof is a friend of a friend who knows a guy?

Evan Eve

March 3, 2013, 1:21 am

If you buy any game they will have a code in the box which will pretty much be like EA uses for it's multiplayer access the only difference will be that It will be for the game and not for a a game type. Once this code is used no one else can use it unless they buy another code from the XBOX Live Market Place or Playstation Market place.

If your system happens to RROD which I doubt it will all of your games are save to your account on Xbox Live or Playstation account so if It does RROD all of your games will be safe and intact. As I do agree with a lot of you about this is stupid but this was coming for a long time and Sony has already confirmed it will not play old console games but you can buy the used games through their online store the same way Microsoft kind of does it.

Microsoft and Sony will probably both do this and If they do they need to cut game prices from $59.99 to $39.99. If they don't then they're gonna see quite a hit from their sales or people will just find ways to hack the games and well it will be a big hit.

MD

March 11, 2013, 3:00 am

If MS had half a brain they would create a steam like system and do away with disks all together. My local blockbuster just closed. Disks are dead move on. They could leverage this into a proper TV/content service. And crazy thought maybe offer a Virtual Machine of an Xbox to access via surface tablets, Win phone8 etc. tie the ecosystem together.. I have 2 Xboxes at home. not being able to play on both would severely piss me off..

ProSecond Amendment

March 14, 2013, 3:53 pm

This is nothing but communist control when they try to tell us what we
can and cant do with our damn money/discs. I let my brother borrow my
games all the time so he doesnt have to go out and buy it when he wants
to try a game out for a couple weeks. Gates is a snake. You should all
google "bill gates death panels" and know this slimey snake is investing
in gmo and vaccinations to kill off as many as he can because he is
paid for by the bilderburgs, rothchilds, rockefellers. Illuminati. Don't
believe me, I'm sorry you're that apathetic and careless about your
future. xbox can go to hell. Please Playstation don't mess this one up
like you did the ps3. Speed your system up! and Bring back SOCOM 2 HD
damn it!!

Bigross Pollock

March 31, 2013, 11:32 pm

This better not be true as I will not be buying the next xbox if it is. I buy games as they come out and most times will buy a second hand game also. Some of these games I would not of bothered with but as they where cheap I gave them a shot and then gone onto buying DLC and the sequel etc. If it was not for the second hand market I would not of bothered with alot of games. In fact I had no interest in Assassin Creed then a friend lent me a copy of the first one and it turned out I liked it then I went on to buy every game since. If they want to sell more copies of game then they have to make them value for money. I have bought games in the past that I have finished in a day or two that has cost me £40 then for the same price I have played Fallout 3 / Skyrim that took me weeks to finish. Game companies grind my gears is the millons in profit not enough? So Bill Gates if your reading this if you do this to the game market you will shoot yourself in the foot not everyone can afford the stupid prices you want for the games!!

KUNA

April 5, 2013, 6:50 pm

make no istake, is microsoft is going to fuck with people like this is because sony will do it as well, the next generation is starting to stink, You can bet your ass that next genration bluway players will start to do the same thing, you wont be able to take your favorite movie to your friends house because you watched it already on your house, this is the digital world of the near future for you, 21st century capitalism sucks monkey ass

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