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Is the Windows 10 November update deleting your programs?

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Microsoft’s latest Windows 10 update has arrived, but there’s a slight problem.

A number of users are reporting that the latest Windows 10 software update is deleting user-installed programs.

Windows users have taken to forums (1,2) complaining about software being removed from their machines without permission.

According to the reports, completing the Windows 10 November update – the first major update to the software – resulted in the loss of programs.

Here’s what one Reddit user – /u/supernoodles2011 – posted:

“So I just did the new ‘Fall’ update and once my PC started back up Windows automatically removed CPU-Z which I had to re-download and install and it works fine so no reason for it to have removed it.”

Three separate users – /u/TheMontyB, /u/Wintersc, and /u/Creature311 – also reported that ‘Speccy’ was removed from their machines.

Other programs reportedly removed include the Cisco VPN client, Java Eclipse Mars, HWmonitor, Intel RST software, SpyBot, CCleaner, Adobe Reader, Intel WiDI Remote, Windows 7 Minesweeper, Remote Server Tools (RSAT), the DynaDock driver, and the list goes on.

While some users reported having the issue when updating using the Windows 10 ISO, others confirmed that the problem also results from upgrading using Windows Update.

If you’ve updated to the new software, you can reportedly check which programs have been removed in the notifications area.

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Microsoft hasn’t commented officially on the matter yet, but comments to GamesBeat by a Microsoft spokesperson earlier this year may shed some light:

“The Microsoft Services Agreement allows Microsoft to change or discontinue certain apps or content where we deem your security is at risk. Software that is pirated or botted places the safety and security of our customers at risk, including a higher risk of malware, fraud, public exposure of personal information, and poor performance or feature malfunction. We remain committed to protecting our customers from the risks of non-genuine software and protecting the intellectual property of developers of all types of content.”

Microsoft’s terms and conditions give the company the right to remove software from your machine, but it’s certainly a questionable practice.

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EdChombeau

November 24, 2015, 5:58 pm

I have the latest W10 on only this PC; the fall upgrade has not come to my other PC's. I noticed a few issues with a few programs but easily solved.Most likely compatabilty issues; cause some apps "look" a diff. Still to me this is a non issue. Use device manager and update or uninstall drivers accordingly. Then I use Slimdrivers to update my devices.

MattMe

November 24, 2015, 7:03 pm

Hmmm, I wonder if this is due to the update being slightly more akin to an upgrade.

I installed on 3 home PCs and a few I'm testing for a roll-out at work, and not had any issues yet. The upgrades are only minor as far as I'm concerned, but I appreciate the few interface tweaks that have been made.

Dead Words

November 24, 2015, 9:57 pm

These instances are scattered and rare but for some reason Windows is automatically removing programs it deems "not compatible."

Dead Words

November 24, 2015, 9:58 pm

They're minor when you take in the big picture of the operating system but as far as Windows updates go it's a big update.
I've not been having any issues. I had huge driver issues with Build 10576 but 10565 before that and 10586 now are both great.

Dead Words

November 24, 2015, 9:59 pm

No operating system has ever been completely bug-free.
And the public isn't doing free beta testing, that would be the Windows Insiders (of which I'm one).
From my experience Threshold 2 is far more smooth, efficient, and quick than RTM was. I'm very happy with how the builds progressed over the last couple months and the improvements I've seen. Microsoft has been doing some good work and I have high hopes for Redstone.

Johnny Walker

November 25, 2015, 7:23 am

haha. i laugh at all the people taken in by this "flashy new" windows OS. I'm sticking with Win 7 Ultimate that lets me to do what I want and I've turned off it's update to Microsoft.

MattMe

November 25, 2015, 10:40 am

You'd have expected they would have included the choice of upgrading or not akin to the Windows 10 upgrade that lists programs as incompatible.

MattMe

November 25, 2015, 10:44 am

No doubt, and for some even the few additional features will be 'big features', I meant from my perspective the changes included are either not relevant at all, (business update settings because I use WSUS) or very minor, such as GUI tweaks.

I'm quite confident that the build is in a good enough state to start rolling out, but I will be doing much more testing first; mainly for business application support.
As a home user I'm much preferring this over 7 or 8.1.

Dead Words

November 25, 2015, 3:16 pm

Yes for a business the improvements aren't as advanced. This update was more for the consumer (however it is the first time I can confidently say Windows 10 is ready for enterprise uses 100%, even if it's not perfect). Redstone in 2016 should focus a lot more on tablet mode, how Windows 10 plays with other Windows 10 devices, and businesses.

Dead Words

November 25, 2015, 3:19 pm

You're right, Microsoft should give you a choice, but they're treating Windows 10 like a service. It's like updating your phone or your tablet, except you're not getting new versions of operating systems or bug fixes, you're getting iterative changes that constantly improve and add to the operating system.
It's not perfect, but what can you do?

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