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Rumour: Insane PS4K sounds more like a PS5 and PS4 owners are furious

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E3 2016 is approaching fast and wild rumour season is in full effect. In the case of the fabled Sony PS4K, we might have stumbled upon some juicy gossip just crazy enough to be true.

A poster on the NeoGAF forums purportedly obtained information from an unnamed meeting, claims the console will arrive packing twice the GPU power of the current PS4 console.

According to the user, dubbed OsirisBlack, the PS4 will have also a 4K Blu-ray player and will be capable of upscaling non 4K games, essentially making this a PS5.

During the post, which already has current PS4 owners reaching for pitch forks & torches and marching on Sony HQ, it was also claimed there’ll be games that specifically target the PS4K.

The rumour monger says these games will still work on the PS4 but (deep breaths here, PS4 owners) “with considerable sacrifices made to performance.” Essentially making this a PS5 with backward compatibility.

Among these specially-made games for PS4K are ‘GOW4’ which is thought to mean God of War 4, while PSVR owners will benefit from a enhanced version of EVE: Valkyrie at launch.

See also: PlayStation VR hands-on

According to the forum poster, retail price could be $399.99, but Sony may decide to fit the console with an even faster CPU that would add another $100 to the asking price.

Adding more insult to potential injury for the 36 million owners of the 2.5 year old PS4 “there is currently no plan for any type of trade in program for current PS4 users.” However, the poster says that could change.

All in all, we’d still take this information with enough salt to make it safe to drive up (and down) Everest in a clapped out Ford Fiesta.

A machine offering twice the GPU speed stands out as being the farthest fetched idea, while it’s difficult to imagine Sony being that cruel to current PS4 owners by releasing a veritable PS5 under a mid-cycle moniker.

It would also destroy the goodwill Sony created with the aggressive and accessible pricing of the PSVR.

However, it has to be said, doubts prevailed over whether the current set-up will ever be enough to run the PlayStation VR platform in a manner than can challenge Oculus and HTC.

Regardless of the questionable legitimacy of the claims, PS4 owners are up in arms.

“The lack of a generous upgrade path is a real bummer. I am not pleased,” wrote Glix, while foxbeldin added: “So the worst outcome I imagined” and those are just the ones we can publish.

Would you be baying for Sony’s blood if this comes to fruition? Or are you now glad you held off on a PS4? Share your thoughts in the comments section below.

Danny Turner

March 30, 2016, 9:10 pm

I spend $600 on a new cell phone every year, I dont see it as unreasonable to get a new console every other year, as long as we get something along the lines of a 4 generation backward compatibility range. Or make every new system infinitely backwards compatible and then i would be all in. All the was back to ps1 every generation would sell me a new system every 2 years easy. I replace my PC in the same time frame as do a lot of the high end gaming community if not more often.

Andy Race

March 30, 2016, 10:42 pm

If all this is true I can't see the problem here, 4k was in its infancy when PS4 was released and it is hardly mainstream even now. Besides, it's not like it was released last month, it's coming up to 2 and half years. If the price is correct it's still only about the price of a mid to high end desktop GPU. It's called progress and people just like to moan about anything.

Darrin Rhone

March 30, 2016, 11:10 pm

I have always been a Console fan!!!! Owned every console since Atari days... My first ever machine was a vic20 (Shows my age) That's why I skipped this generation... £400 for a minor update... When my 4 year old PC still out performs this generation of consoles... Plus because any triple A title comes to pc anyways because of this gen chipset!!! Same as PC so easy to port!!! Even now I would not buy a PS4 or Xbone @ £250... Because my tablet has more power (That last part was a joke!!!) But in all seriousness you have all been duped!!!

Eddie Battikha

March 30, 2016, 11:40 pm

Wat kind of Super Tablet do u have? U think I'm fresh of the boat? Nice try buddy. I sure can't wait to get a 4k tv at the end year and the new Playstation in Q1 2017.

ChinnyChinChinChecker

March 31, 2016, 12:51 am

I have not problem with this. My 4K TV needs more content as is.

Markis Anthony

March 31, 2016, 1:18 am

You do that. The rest of us will watch as developers won't even tap that new hardware properly. You're going to be playing slightly upgraded ports,its remasters all over again. Because publishers will not put that much money and time into a small user base that upgraded. Not when they already have the XBox One and PS4 crowd to sell to. Youre going to see a few games show off the hardware, the rest will be Sega CD and 32X like quick ports. People are going to feel awfully burned by this.

ギャビン

March 31, 2016, 1:55 am

I don't have a issue with it, but for the love of god, please make this new unit more premium. Like having a better HDMI port, please.

Eddie Battikha

March 31, 2016, 2:22 am

Where have u been? every console launch some games look a lil better than last gen and some look alot better like Kill Zone Shadow Fall and Nba2k14 looked awesome at launch. This time it'll be a nicer jump because u have to buy a 4k tv and Yeah I know the games won't be running at 4k, but some will at some point. but the higher resolutions will sure be way better than 720p, 900p and even 1080p.

Bryan King

March 31, 2016, 3:32 am

"Furious", "Pitchforks".... Hyperbole much!?
I'm there day 1 and these things will sell like hot cakes. People don't need to buy on release and the normal PS4 will run everything. This guarantees your game catalog will be playable on future models and gives plenty of time to upgrade when you are ready to.
Stop buying stupid phones and get a new console instead, way better use of your money.
If you want to be a mobile gamer then we don't need you....

XbotMK1

March 31, 2016, 3:58 am

I think your title is misleading. You should replace the click-bait title to, "I think the PS4K sounds more like a PS5 and "I'M FURIOUS" but I'll just say "PS4 owners are furious" to disguise my opinion piece as if I speak for everyone even though this is a rumor and we don't really know sh*t" lol

Darrin Rhone

March 31, 2016, 5:25 am

You obviously can't read English, the tablet part was a joke!!! Example GTAV or Tomb Raider!!! or COD Already 4K 60fps... Can any console do that ? Already on 4K, Dumbass... (Graphics card update) Yeah sure it takes longer to receive games, but at least we get finished product, DLC's Online... Not ripped of like you guys with Part 1 DLC every 3-4 months = $$$$ Not to mention the Micro transactions... Like I say's this gen has been a rip off, hence why not buying into it... And waiting to see what happens next before I buy anything... If I wanted to Buy a PS4 or XBone I could right now.... But they suck terms of graphical power... Stick to your 900p and 1080p running at less than 30 FPS ;) Also can you apply mod's to your games ? Go back to your cave!!!! Troll!!!!

Jmac

March 31, 2016, 7:54 am

What's wrong with the HDMI port?

Jmac

March 31, 2016, 8:02 am

Why is anyone "furious" about this? Nobody gets upset when Intel releases a new, faster, more power efficient processor every couple of years, and guess what - they don't operate a trade-in scheme either. Why should Sony? What are they going to do with millions of used, superseded PS4s?

As I say to anyone who gets upset when a new version of something they own is released, the original PS4 you bought at whatever price you bought it obviously made sense as a value proposition to you at the time. It can still play all the same games and do all the same stuff it could do before the 4K version was announced.

If you want the new features, save your pennies, buy the new version and take a hit on selling your existing one on eBay - there are plenty of people willing to pay a lower price for older generation hardware. It's what many of us do with our iPhones, iPads, laptops, graphics cards and other things every year or two.

AVB

March 31, 2016, 11:16 am

April Fool? We are in the ball park for dates here...

filippask

March 31, 2016, 2:15 pm

Because when you buy a console, you buy into the premise that your device will be supported for at least 5-7 years with games. What Sony is doing with this move is making the original PS4 obsolete within just 3 years, which is one of the shortest lifetimes a console has ever had. Your argument that this is fine because Intel does the same in the PC gaming world is moot. Console gamers buy consoles because they want to escape the upgrade cycle of PC gaming. Asking them to go back to a similar upgrade cycle of a new console every 3 defeats the whole point.

mode11

March 31, 2016, 2:22 pm

Would even doubling the GPU performance allow games to run in 4K, assuming comparable textures, effects etc. to current games? It's unlikely, considering the current console runs many games run at less than 1080p and / or at 30fps.

This is more likely to be about VR. The released pictures of the VR package include a mysterious external box, about half the size of a Wii and with active cooling. If this is some kind of external GPU, perhaps the new PS4 simply integrates it, making a neater / cheaper package.

The PS4 was conceived before VR became the hot thing. It's since been established that hitting a *consistent* 90fps is essential to avoid sickness, and this is beyond the PS4's GPU. It is, however, quite reasonable to expect that doubling its performance would enable 1080p @90fps.

mode11

March 31, 2016, 2:39 pm

Quite.

The only difference in this case, though, is that the "PS4K" would still be compatible with all the games, controllers etc. of the PS4, so it's not quite the same as a new generation. Also, most people don't have 4K TVs (if that's what the new unit is actually for), and it's unclear what benefit you would see on a regular 1080p TV - better AA? 60fps gameplay?

The other thing is that although the rumours might be annoying for people who have recently bought a PS4, early adopters will have had perhaps 3 years out of their machine by the time the new machine is released, and would still get a reasonable sale price for it.

Idontkno23

March 31, 2016, 3:26 pm

Has everyone completely forgotten about the Kinect?

Robert Tarnowski

March 31, 2016, 5:08 pm

I want this machine...i really have no problem what so ever i would love to have this machine

R4G3

March 31, 2016, 7:24 pm

Here is what I would want to see in the new "PS4K" system- new cpu/gpu/apu to finally deliver consistent 1080p @60fps or more as well as to hit the PSVR to the 90fps "sweet spot", desktop sized hdd- preferably a 4tb or greater SSHD, some supplementary RAM to aid multitasking so a game doesn't need to be closed to play Spotify for instance(also to reduce freeze-ups when transition between games and the system menu take effect), HDMI 2.0 and UHD BluRay drive for 4k movies, built-in Bluetooth support for wireless mouse and keyboard (if that isn't already the case), additional USB ports on both front and rear- all USB 3.0, and lastly at least two high-speed connection ports (like Thunderbolt) for additional fast access storage/external hardware upgrades.

Software needs an upgrade as well- the system menu is an uncustomizable mess and a next-Gen system should have a better than crap Web browser. Backwards compatibility should be the rule from this point onward if hardware refresh is every few (2-4)years.

Jmac

April 1, 2016, 3:00 am

But it's not making the PS4 obsolete. Existing PS4 gamers will still be able to play most/all new games, albeit some with degraded graphics performance compared to 4K owners. Realistically unless you have a 4K TV (which is still most people at this point), the upgrade is unlikely to be worthwhile. If you have a 4K TV then the option of an upgrade is only good news. I'm just failing to see the downside in this.

I'd say it's more analogous to when Microsoft released the Xbox 360 Elite mid-cycle with hdmi output, and I don't seem to remember anyone going full retard over that.

UltraHD3dPS4

April 1, 2016, 4:08 am

I love how you always hear about how angry people get when new consoles come out but the fact is you don't have to buy it and the fact is many people would buy new consoles like they do with phones even if they came out with a new console every year or two. So Microsoft and Sony knows that the same people who rage about whenever new consoles come out are the same people who pre order or purchase one the same year they come out. With technology people upgrade every year, I plan to upgrade my phone, tv, graphics card and monitor soon. I plan to purchase 3 VR headsets and atleast the hololens or something similar. You don't have to be rich to do this, if you live in the united states all this will cost around 5K.

Dark Lord

April 1, 2016, 8:29 am

Sony should be getting sued .... this just makes ps4 owners accept moving onto pc or xbox one. Ps4 should not be getting any replacements for quite a few years if they do try to push this ps4k aka a real PS5 many will just move onto other consoles and forget sony. PS3 had a long life as did previous consoles seeing as there is hardly any game library for ps4 or xbox one its kinda baffling they would even consider such a thing. Money is a powerful drug... and seems sony is addicted... wanting more of it ... refusing purchase I wouldnt even accept it as a gift.... only morons would buy into this idea.

filippask

April 1, 2016, 1:50 pm

the thing that worries me the most is this quote: "these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance". I wouldn't have a problem if the games will run at the same framerate in both consoles, offering the same gameplay and the only significant difference being 1080p vs 4K resolution. But the reality is that the "made for PS4K" games will run poorly on the original one as devs will focus on the new shiny one and neglect the outdated consoles. I'd like to be proven wrong but this sounds like the beginning of the end of console gaming...

Gary Hudders

April 1, 2016, 4:22 pm

Had a PS4 and Xbox one. Sick of Xbox one so traded it for another PS4. Got 2 in the house, just 3 weeks ago. I'm ok if there is an upgrade path. Otherwise this sucks

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