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Note 4 sales lower than early Note 3 interest

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Early Galaxy Note 4 sales have slumped below expectations, latest reports have suggested.

With Samsung’s fourth-generation phablet having been formally unveiled at IFA 2014 early last month, reports from Korean media have claimed the 5.7-inch device has shifted 4.5 million units during its opening month on sale.

While this is a far from insignificant figure, it marks a drop of 500,000 units on the first month of Note 3 sales last year.

Although the Galaxy S5’s big brother has been on sale in Samsung’s native Korea for a month now, the phone only hit UK retailers in the past week. We would expect Note 4 sales to jump in the coming month as the handset continues its global rollout.

Samsung has yet to formally comment on precise Note 4 sales figures.

If accurate, this drop in sales will do nothing to aid the manufacturer’s slumping profits. In a difficult year for the Apple rival after years of growth, 2014 has been filled with slowing handset sales and a reduction in revenues.

Despite reduced interest in the Note 3 over the Note 3, Samsung’s latest phablet is arguably the best device the company has ever created.

The phone pairs its 5.7-inch, 2560 x 1440 pixel QHD display with a 2.7GHz quad-core Snapdragon 805 processor and 3GB of RAM.

With a 16-megapixel, OIS enhanced camera also thrown into the mix, the Note 4’s specs sheet is rounded off by Android 4.4 KitKat and the company’s beloved S-Pen stylus.

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Matthew Salmon

October 24, 2014, 3:50 pm

Its too expensive.. Samsung are putting as big a premium on their top devices as apple do.. you really aren't getting good value for money. Plus it doesn't really do anything much new or different to the note 3 in real terms

iFrank

October 24, 2014, 5:02 pm

I agree with Mathew on the insufficient difference point that he made.
Plus, with most phone contracts being for twenty four months why would many people upgrade on a twelve months cycle?

toboev

October 24, 2014, 5:32 pm

Yes, the money. I've been waiting patiently to upgrade my Note 1. But I paid £380 for that, and no way would I pay over £400 to replace it.
I agree that people with the Note 3 might not see a reason to buy either, but that is normal - who buys a new phone every year anyway? The Note 4 is there for people who are ready to upgrade, people with a Note 2 or 1, and for them it is a decent lift in spec.

Matthew Salmon

October 24, 2014, 5:39 pm

Try £600 sim free. For me its a decent upgrade to the note 1 perhaps..but then so is something like a galaxy s4 for around £200 refurbished. There just isn't anything new enough in these current devices to justify the outlay

toboev

October 24, 2014, 5:52 pm

You seem to be putting up your own turkey, just to shoot it down. Of course nobody (sane) upgrades on a 12 month cycle, and many people are on a 24 month contract. But how is that a point against the Note 4 [or should have said: how is that relevant to the Note 4 launch]? Plenty of people with a Note 1 or 2 are now ready to upgrade. Inevitably, also some people with a later, newer Note, who are not ready yet. So?

toboev

October 24, 2014, 5:55 pm

Yeah, I can quite happily keep using the Note 1 until the Note 5 is in view, and the Note 4 comes down to sub £400.

iFrank

October 24, 2014, 6:20 pm

Idiotic near abusive response. You acknowledge even in your own situation that you will keep your Note 3. That was my point, if a phone is really popular and sells in great numbers, there is little need or likelyhood people will upgrade after twelve months, so less may be sold.

I made no "point against the Note 4"!

The article was about a decline in sales of one compared to the other, not what anyone (including me) thinks what the merits of the phone are.

I do know though, which turkey needs shooting!

toboev

October 24, 2014, 9:46 pm

There is a reply button, helps keep the thread, always supposing it was me you were characterising as idiotic and near abusive.

For what it's worth, I never said I had a Note 3, so I certainly won't be keeping it. Nevertheless I think I get your point, except didn't the Note 3 likewise come out when its predecessor was 12 months old as well? So it is not a point of difference in their respective launches.

Even so, not sure why you persist in your view that people with a 12 month old phone have any bearing on the launch success of the later model - they are never going to buy it at that time, they are irrelevant. Maybe if another 12 months on people are still not buying the Note 4, then you might ask whether that is due to insufficient difference between the 4 and the 3, since that is the time you would be expecting them to buy. But by then there will be a Note 5 (which won't interest the Note 4 owners, and so on).

Oberoth

October 24, 2014, 10:23 pm

I've just got my Note 4 and loving it so far but one thing that did take me by surprise even after reading loads of reviews, was the narrow lens angle on the main camera. Coming from the Galaxy S3 with a 26mm lens i was quite disappointed when i started playing with the camera as the Note 4's 31mm makes a big difference. This doesn't seem to get too much coverage in reviews.

danielfrisbee

October 25, 2014, 1:08 am

my nokia 1020 is 24mm or something thereabouts, great for architecture and landscapes but when taking photos of people their heads need to be centre frame pretty much to avoid distortion. It's a worthwhile sacrifice, and 31mm does sound a little high. Mind you the human eye is 50mm or something as I recall, and the resolution is on your side so you'll have to learn to walk backwards..

Karly Johnston

October 25, 2014, 5:19 am

Gapgate has taken a heavy toll. Scandal just bounces off Apple.

Prem Desai

October 25, 2014, 7:48 am

It's just too much money to throw around for mediocre updates.

Samsung is not alone in this.

When will manufacturers realise that if they expect consumers to shell out £500+ on a mobile device, there needs to more than just a small screen increase or 1mm slimmer.

I know lots of people do lap up these minor updates (especially for 1 particular brand), but this cannot be sustained.

As the smart phone market gets more saturated, there are far fewer first time buyers than ever before. Samsung and other manufacturers need to realise this and compare their new devices against their old and the cost.

toboev

October 25, 2014, 8:40 am

I agree that you would need a decent margin of difference to consider shelling out £500+ (I think £500 is way too much anyway!), but disagree that the previous model is the baseline for that difference.

I would think it is targetted at people who are looking for their next phone, that is, people who have a 24 month old phone (or older), so automatically that excludes Note 3 owners, surely?

I notice that you didn't actually say "comapred to the Note 3", so apologies if I made that assumption incorrectly.

Prem Desai

October 25, 2014, 9:55 am

I had meant 'against their old devices' but left out 'devices' in error.

Nathillien

October 25, 2014, 2:47 pm

Considering that Note 4 was available only in Korea on the release date (26.Sep.) and that the rest of the markets got it just a week or two ago, that are awesome numbers.

Nathillien

October 25, 2014, 2:50 pm

Butt hurt over iPhone's bendgate, crashgate and dyegate?
What's next?

iFrank

October 25, 2014, 6:46 pm

You're right that you did not say you had a Note 3, I inserted the wrong numeral, perhaps because I have a Note 3.
Thanks for calm response btw.

I am not "persising in my view" though, I threw my first comment into the mix because it seemed a possible reason for lower sales, there are other possibilities but it was the first one that occured to me for a subjective reason that will be apparent below.

Rather than upgrading to a Note 4 now, I think I will treat myself to a NotePRO 12.2, my tongue is positvely hanging out for one, I might even start using the pen and related utilities : - )

Sent from my Note 3 which replaced my Note 1 after a 2yr contract.

toboev

October 25, 2014, 7:43 pm

and AFAIK you still can't buy it (SIM free) in the UK. Amazon UK lists it as:

"Samsung Galaxy Note 4 4G Phablet UK SIM-Free Smartphone - Black (discontinued by manufacturer)"
Clove UK says it is delayed until 31 Oct

Karly Johnston

October 25, 2014, 8:44 pm

iPhone is breaking records, only one hurting is Sammy.

Nathillien

October 26, 2014, 5:06 am

Hence the 4.5M of Note 4 sales in a week or two. LOL
Trolling harder you must.

Karly Johnston

October 26, 2014, 6:05 am

4.5m is for the entire month, not a week. I must have won when you exaggerate by a factor of 4X.

awesome_farts

October 26, 2014, 8:51 am

You're both right. It released a week ago AND a month ago. The sept. 26 release was exclusive to korea. US and some parts of UK saw a release on the 17th. Rest of UK /other regions will see it on the 31st.

But he's right, for a fragmented release it's winning :) Also, i compared both the note 4 and 6+ at work - via an apple fanboy and a galaxy fanboy - and as far as the display goes the note 4 wins easy. As far as slow motion goes 6+ wins easy. November I'll be upgrading and ultimately i was sold on the note 4!

Karly Johnston

October 26, 2014, 10:59 am

You forget China was from the start and is easily the biggest market for phablets on the planet. The month includes all pre-orders and 1-2 weeks from most of the developed world. When the 6+ had 4.5m pre-orders in China within 6 hours you know the Note 4 total sales for a month are a fail.

awesome_farts

October 26, 2014, 12:32 pm

That'll be 4.5 million and one more as soon i get my hands on the note 4 soon! Also, the battery life on the GN4 is amazing! My coworker had 92% left after 6 hours of use right in front of me without charging it! That's what sold me earlier ;p

Also, 6+ is a compliment /apple's way to flatter samsungs notes whether you like it or not. It was designed with inspiration from the notes. Take nfc for example, samsung has had that since the galaxy S!

Personally from what i witnessed from both devices, 6 and 6+ are an XL and 2XL version of the 5s where the note 4 showed a bit more innovation feature wise. Take the heart rate monitor for example - works great when you want to know your BPM after a jog! Could be gimmicks, but the more features the better! I've had iphone before android and don't hold allegiance to either, i get sold on what personally impresses me the most!

Karly Johnston

October 26, 2014, 1:06 pm

We know how partial you are to farts so your personal choices aren't relavent. Apple doesn't reference Samsung in its ads, Samsung can't make an ad without an Apple reference. The market thinks all those features you love to never use are gimmicks which is why Samsdung sales are collapsing. They need something that Apple has... record sales.

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