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Second 4th Gen iPhone Found, Dissected On Video

Gordon Kelly


Second 4th Gen iPhone Found & Dissected

Seems Apple's impregnable security really has been busted wide open once and for all...

Vietnamese site taoviet.vn has become the second site to get its hands on a pre-production iPhone (presumably without paying for it) and given us a detailed tear down that confirms an Apple A4 processor is inside.

Whether this processor is exactly the same speed as that in the iPad (read our review here) remains to be seen, but it would make sense for Apple to match up both devices from a developer perspective. Coming a month on from the first leak, the most noticeable physical difference is the disappearance of screws from around the new metallic border which suggests it is a more production ready model. It is also running Apple's 'Bonfire' testing software.

So with the cat well and truly out of the bag, down the street, off to the gun store and back to shoot the bag holder all that is left to say is: roll on 7 June...

...oh and beware the Boyzone Bee-Gees soundtrack in the video's background.

In related news Apple has disputed an NPD report which claims shipments of Android handsets outsold the iPhone in the US for the first time during Q1. The margin was significant with BlackBerry responsible for 36 per cent of all smartphone sales, Android 28 per cent and the iPhone 21 per cent and shouldn't be surprising given the numerous models and price brackets for phones running Google's mobile OS.

Still Apple spokesperson Natalie Harrison said the figures didn't take into account the 85m iPhone and iPod touch units sold around the World to date. To which I'm pretty sure in saying: they weren't meant to.


Via MacRumours

Hamish Campbell

May 12, 2010, 6:30 pm

Man, the sound on that is so messed up I can't understand a word he is saying.


May 12, 2010, 6:39 pm

Will be interesting to see the clock speed of the CPU. If I were to guess I reckon they'd underclock it in order to get better battery performance.

If my Desire is anything to go by it's getting to the point where they all need to stop worrying about MHz/GHz and start working on battery life.


May 12, 2010, 6:55 pm

Isn't that "How Deep Is Your Love" by the Bee Gees in the background?


May 12, 2010, 7:01 pm

You've got your information sources COMPLETELY wrong.

It's not boyzone, it's take-that.


May 12, 2010, 7:07 pm

For me it is more the fact that he is speaking Vietnamese, that is throwing me of ;)

Chatan Mistry

May 12, 2010, 7:32 pm

Are you sure that's Boyzone in the background? It sounds like the Bee Gee's to me...?

Is anyone else disappointed with the hardware of the the new iPhone? It just doesn't seem as pretty (!) as the current iPhone


May 12, 2010, 7:40 pm

well I'm going to say it:

if they had made the back able to slide off (like every other phone on the market) and simply used some battery contact points (like every other phone on the market) then they could have had the sim card access on the inside (which by the pictures is very possible) this would therefore remove the simcard tray and cause the overall lines of the device to be much less interupted and would also remove the possibility of dust gathering or getting into the device.

But apple (for whatever stupid reasons) would never do that


May 12, 2010, 7:46 pm

@Gormond @Zisham @Chatan - yep, I'm an idiot. It irritated me and was an automatic reaction ;)


May 12, 2010, 8:27 pm

Why would Apple bother to dispute that report? Losers!


May 12, 2010, 8:42 pm

@Jay - phew, glad you got that out yer system! I bet we were all thinking exactly the same {obvious} thing. Yep. Pretty sure we were right there. Good job. ;)


May 12, 2010, 8:51 pm

@ravmania I agree about battery life. As I commented on another article:

I will make a bet here: the single most important feature of the next gen iPhone will be not in the software/features but battery life. There are a few things that point to that:

- back of the phone made of some ceramic that improves reception (i.e. phone needs less power for the radio)

- slightly bigger capacity battery

- same processor as in iPad (probably underclocked)

If you think about it, probably the thing that most people complain about in any smartphone is battery life, so Apple will deliver and present it as a breakthrough in mobile computing (magical?!).


May 12, 2010, 8:57 pm

@Jay: Allowing the back to slide off means you need a latch mechanism (with space tolerances) to allow it, which could increase the bulk of the phone. You also have to design a plastic shell on the inside of the phone to protect the internals when the back is off, which also increases the bulk of the phone. This could also reduce the internal space allotted to the battery, which reduces the phone's longevity. Note that the battery in the iPhone 4 is pretty massive.

I'm not saying that this is the right way to go (I too would like to see an iPhone with a removable battery), but Apple are smart people and they do have their reasons. That said, there was some wild speculation that the new design allows for a removable section of the aluminium border around the phone, which would give the user access to the battery from the side.


May 13, 2010, 12:10 am


No doubt Apple's non removable batteries do seem to provide good battery life if the MacBook Pros are any indication. But the argument about removable batteries adding bulk seems a bit weak given how thin phones like the Desire are.

Don Kanonjii

May 13, 2010, 12:29 am

Q: Why would Apple bother to dispute that report? A: Fear

So much for Apple's impregnable fortress of secrecy. 2x handsets, not just info leaks/pictures...Suspicious? I think so.


May 13, 2010, 5:58 am

I wouldn't like to be the employees that lost those phones. You can just imagine going into Apple HQ the next day when your manager gets all the staff together. He starts off with "come on then...lets see them..." and suddenly you can't produce yours! :(


May 13, 2010, 7:59 am

@ravmania: Yeah, sure enough the Desire is 11.9mm with a flat back whereas the 3GS is 12.3mm with a curved back, so pretty similar. However, the iPhone 4 appears to be a lot thinner than both, and that's with around half of its internal space taken up by its battery. That looks impressive, and I'm not sure it would be possible if the battery was removable.

That said, I'd gladly accept a couple millimetres of extra bulk if it meant that the battery was replaceable.


May 13, 2010, 11:48 am

No news yet on the capacity of iP4 - is it a given now that there will be 32 and 64gb, and perhaps still 16gb at the low end?

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