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Nokia N8 Available for Pre-Order


Nokia N8 Available for Pre-Order

Nokia’s N8 is finally ready for pre-order, with both T-Mobile and Vodafone opening up pre-registrations for the much anticipated phone.

Neither company has revealed an exact release date or pricing, but both list the device as ‘coming soon’.

The N8 runs on Symbian^3 with support for apps and widgets. Hardware highlights include a 12-megapixel camera with a Carl Zeiss lens, Xenon Flash, video recording and editing, 16GB of built-in memory, and a microSD card slot for adding more. It also offers a multi-touch display and HDMI out.

The N8 is Nokia’s Great White Hope, with Nokia’s chief executive Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo claiming that the device will be crucial in enabling the Finnish mobile phone giant to regain its place at the top table of high-end smartphone manufacturers.

Link: Nokia N8


July 26, 2010, 8:36 pm

fingers crossed for a reasonable sim free price.


July 26, 2010, 8:37 pm

I can't see this getting an good app library...

Why would you develop for Symbian when Maemo's successor is just around the corner?


July 26, 2010, 8:41 pm

Awesome - 12MP sensor noise. I can see the marketing now: "Do you find your pub snaps and Facebook photos just aren't... HD-ish enough? Wish you could zoom in a bit more to see in just a bit more detail the inherent imperfections in such a miniscule sensor and lens? Want to extend your e-peen? Nokia N8 - for when an 8MP cameraphone just isn't overkill enough"


July 26, 2010, 9:18 pm

@Ryan: Qt Mobile is compatible with Symbian and MeeGo, so it's an ideal solution for developers


July 26, 2010, 10:04 pm

@Jay: I seem to remember them claiming 370 Euros before taxes, but that may not have been final.

@Ryan: Really? Because I've had an N900 almost since release, and there are still more apps (and higher quality ones) available for Symbian. The N900 does have the better browser, but you can get Opera/Skyfire for Symbian, which makes up for it slightly speed-wise.

@John: Do you have anything remotely useful or even relevant to say? Kindly STFU.


July 26, 2010, 11:00 pm

@John McLean

Actually the photos are very good. That's what happens when you use an enormous sensor.

You can look that sort of stuff up, you know.

As for me I heard from a bloke who hadn't used a final version who heard from a mate that Symbian^3 was old fashioned. I presume that means that it makes phone calls without dropping them and allows you to use it without having to own a computer or have a proprietary software account.


July 26, 2010, 11:12 pm

@John McLean: from the N8 FAQ:

Why did you choose 12-megapixel rather than 8-megapixel or 5-megapixel?

This is an excellent question. We compete in an incredibly complex industry. We have to balance the beliefs of the majority with what we believe is right for our customers.

With the N8, we didn&#8217t want to go backwards from the N86 8MP, only forwards {I&#8217m referring to performance rather than megapixels}, but we also need to be competitive in the industry. For these reasons, we concluded the only way forward was to do this properly and that meant using the biggest sensor ever in a mobile. This may come as a surprise to some, given Nokia&#8217s early track record in mobile camera development, but it&#8217s never been our intent to lead on megapixels. This is why we have consistently adopted larger pixels than those considered to be at the forefront. As an example of that, most manufactures have switched to using the potentially less sensitive 1.4 micron pixels in their 8 and 12-megapixel equipped devices. Whereas Nokia are still using the larger and therefore more sensitive 1.75 micron pixel sensors.

Until such time that there are sufficient improvements in smaller pixel sensors. We&#8217ll be sticking with this approach for now, but sensor technology is constantly improving.

There are some benefits which we&#8217ve taken advantage of with using this resolution sensor and one which you&#8217ll be able to take advantage of:

1. When recording video &#8211 due to the high resolution sensor &#8211 we take advantage of pixel binning to reduce noise. By combining multiple pixels and combining one new pixel you effectively filter out much of the noise that would normally otherwise need to be filtered out resulting in a reduction of resolution. In reasonable lighting conditions, we&#8217re able to completely disable noise reduction for video as a result which allows us to retain maximum sharpness but with very low noise. I&#8217ll come back to this point later when discussing digital zoom

2. High performance digital zoom up to 3x in video with almost lossless performance (virtually no upscaling).

3. When viewing images on a large screen at normal viewing magnifications, because with a higher resolution image you don&#8217t zoom in to the image as far, any noise that may be visible is reduced, as the pixels of the monitor display more than one pixel of the image. The more pixels they account for, the noise is less apparent. Factoring this in, it&#8217s theoretically possible to shoot in roughly half the light level with a 12-megapixel sensor vs. a 5-megapixel sensor with similar pixel size and characteristics. The appearance of noise will be roughly the same.

Longer term, we continue to debate and discuss all kinds of interesting views of possible directions we could take. I still see lots of opportunities.


July 26, 2010, 11:28 pm

Great to see in the picture it already has 9 reviews giving it an average of 5 stars and the product isn't even available...I smell something very fishy.

Technical Itch

July 27, 2010, 12:46 am

@Benny Har-Even Quick note: This is currently categorised under "mp3".

@Me - A wise man once said that the devil is in the detail!

Geoff Richards

July 27, 2010, 12:55 am

@Technical Itch - well spotted. Fixed now


July 27, 2010, 1:30 am

I dont know what to think of this. I like the look of the device I have to say but I'm not sure the dual operating system approach of nokia is the right way to go. This is the flagship Symbian device but there will be a seperate flagship Linux device? I guess the main things governing how many and what quality of apps are available are the device uptake and the ease of porting and development. The problem I've found with my Blackberry Storm is that while there are many apps available for BB-OS, the majority of Blackberrys out there arent touch screen, thus the majority of apps arent properly designed to work with touchscreen devices.


July 27, 2010, 4:43 am

Whilst i'm loving the Desire / Froyo and WM 6.5 dual boot experience on my HD2 (thanks to the Devs at XDA), i'm going to give this N8 a go before I make the jump to a dedicated Android handset, simply because I have always loved Nokia's handsets. I do hope that it won't be a let down on the OS front, although coming from WM6.5 and hacked Android, I'll probably think it's great!

If it's retails at £300 SIM free, unlocked then it's a done deal.


July 27, 2010, 7:35 am

@Malderon: the dual OS approach is the right way to go: in 2011 you'll have MeeGo at the high-end and Symbian everywhere else, except the low-end phones. Like I said before, with Qt Mobile, a developer can target MeeGo, Maemo and Symbian + different screen sizes.

MeeGo will also have a massive presence on Intel netbooks and tablets, so it will have a big market share right from the start in October.


July 27, 2010, 10:59 am

This reminds me of some of the HTC phones with Windows Mobile on them, I used to look at them and think "if only that ran something else". I'll wait until its out, but the worry has to be that Nokia make a wonderful bit of hardware which is then held back by a poor software experience. My wife runs Symbian and quite likes it, but it doesn't yet compare to Android or IOS.

I guess Nokia is never going to embrace Android, but its a pity, wouldn't it be nice if you could buy the handset you wanted and pick the OS you wanted to run on it.

I'm kinda hoping this is a success though, the more decent competition out there, the better for everyone.


July 27, 2010, 1:07 pm

@scotw - "wouldn't it be nice if you could buy the handset you wanted and pick the OS you wanted to run on it."

I agree with you totally - some handsets are nearly there with ports of Meego and Froyo to the N900 (not working fully yet, but I live in hope). It would be better if this could be done easily, but then who said life was meant to be easy? :-)


July 27, 2010, 3:19 pm

always a great design from nokia , but if its anything less than android or ios, its the end of the line for them.... if i were the CEO, i would just scrap symbian and just bang my money on maemo/meego...


July 27, 2010, 4:31 pm

"always a great design from nokia , but if its anything less than android or ios, its the end of the line for them...."

Symbian sales last quarter... about 28 million. iOS sales this quarter... 8.4 million.

Nope. Not seeing that one.

Neil B

July 27, 2010, 4:48 pm

A question to all those who are bashing Symbian. Have you actually used it, I mean properly used it for productivity or PIM? All this talk of putting Android on Nokia devices will ruin the whole sector in my opinion. Consumers love variety and choice (I do anyway), Symbian is my preferred choice as it has all the usability and features that I require and nothing else does at the moment.

Many people are comparing the current position of the mobile phone sector to that of the PC sector 20 or so years ago. They are in fact very different for two reason. Firstly, hardware. The PC market was locked into the IBM defacto standard where as we have many different solutions now. Finally, phones are a lot more desirable now than PC's were back then. So even niche devices (which I see Nokia becoming) will still sell substantial numbers.



July 27, 2010, 8:08 pm

Are Nokia actually trying to make their smartphones look uber boring/ugly? I mean common!! Sure Apple has taken it too far with the style-concious consumer obsession but then again you don't have to make an outright UGLY phone on purpose. Get your act together Nokia, you're seriously starting to lag behind the rest of the pack. (including companies like Motorola... how the hell did that happen???)


July 27, 2010, 8:31 pm


The problem with that is that Symbian is being relegated to the low-end of the smartphone / high end of feature phone market. The money is in the main smartphone market, so although Nokia's number in sheer volume look good, they have real cause to be concerned.

With nice, cheap handsets like the HTC wildfire bringing full Android to the lower end of the smartphone market, the pressure is on.


July 27, 2010, 8:40 pm

@Neil B

I think it's because it isn't shiny and new. The fact that it integrated all the features new operating systems are just getting round to years ago seems to escape people.

Plus Symbian^1's UI could be a lot better. And by 'a lot' I mean 'remove the minor annoyances that in no way make it unusable unless you have the IQ of a retarded gerbil'.

Neil B

July 27, 2010, 9:03 pm

@Sleeper, I think we're on the same page.


July 28, 2010, 12:25 am

I was intrigued to find that a guy at work had bought an HTC Wildfire this morning in preference to the Desire because of the reduced power consumption.


July 28, 2010, 7:59 pm

@drdark - don't get your panties in a twist. Yours was a fairly harsh response to a flippant comment intended to be taken in lighthearted fashion. I'm deeply sorry if I offended your inner Nokia fanboy, but the fact remains that a 12 megapixel sensor (regardless of how good it is) behind a lens designed around the compromises inherent in any camera phone is wasted. I am more than willing to accept that the N8 will produce amongst the best quality photos of any camera phone, but 12MP on a camera phone is pure marketing bluster.


July 29, 2010, 5:21 am

@drdark yep nokia conversations are saying &#8364370 which is £308 and then £362 with VAT, there should be no reason why it should be much, if any, more than that, I certainly wouldnt pay play.coms quoted £450.

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