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haim

1:17 PM on 3 August, 2009

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I'm assuming this is compatible with Better Place's program of quick battery replacements....? I know they and Renault are doing cars for the system....or is Nissan only doing the batteries? Looking forward to them going live here in Denmark in 2011.

typo 'right hours' presumably should be eight.

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haim

1:25 PM on 3 August, 2009

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I may be a bit picky now, but the eight hours is for the US's wussy 120volts, and our 'real man' 220 volt system will do it in 4 hours.

uh uh uh or whatever Tim the Toolman says.

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Brian ONeill

2:18 PM on 3 August, 2009

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Sounds good to me, and another example of what people can do if they put there minds to it. Note to American companies stop try to noble legislation, and get on with the R&D.

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Ben

4:17 PM on 3 August, 2009

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While I don't personally want one of *these* electric cars, I'm all for electric and seeing what sort of difference it can make. So, good luck Nissan, and bring it on!

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BobaFett

4:40 PM on 3 August, 2009

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Why is it that the design for electric and other 'green' cars has to be so awful?

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Matt G Baish

5:10 PM on 3 August, 2009

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Bah - I got all excited until I did some googling and found out that;

1) price will be circa £19K!!!! (without batteries!)

2) lease of batteries likely to be £75-£100 pcm (electricity cost on top of that remember)

3) will not be compatible with the Renault quick-swap battery replacement scheme (although 30 minute to 80% capacity recharge @ stations, it will take a lot longer/costlier to equip stations than just shipping in some charged batteries)

So its back to the crappy old Citroen C3 Diesel for me (which although ugly as sin is fairly cheap to run, has 5 seats and has fairly low CO2 pollution rating).

I REALLY want to go down the electric car zero emissions (at point of use) route - or even a Prius to go halfway - but the economics just don't add up.

P.S. @haim - it actually seems to be 8 hours in Europe/UK & 16 hours in US (which would make it next to useless in US I would reckon)

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haim

6:15 PM on 3 August, 2009

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@Matt- I should have added my link, says 4 hours for 220 volts. Thats pretty good really, if true of course :)

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/08/nissan-electric-leaf/

It gets a bit interesting here in Denmark as the better place system of interchangeable batteries is going in 2011, plus here we have 180% (that is not a typo) tax on the price of the car, however this is waived for electric vehicles (secured until 2012 or 15 at the moment) so for Danes this will turn out to be considerably cheaper than a regular (new) car.

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Xiphias

7:29 PM on 3 August, 2009

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@Andy H: Because manufacturers are using it as an excuse to actually do some real design rather than copying each other? I like it, although it does look like something Citroen or another french company would come up with rather than a Nissan.

The inside is hideous though.

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Hugo

8:17 PM on 3 August, 2009

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I have no idea where Wired got 4 hours from. Nissan's press release says eight hours at 200V, which would be about seven hours at the UK's 230V if my maths is right. The "quick charger" requires three phase power, so it's not exactly domestically plausible.

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Matt G Baish

8:48 PM on 3 August, 2009

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@haim: autocar thinks different :) Ho hum.

<a href="http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.ASpx?AR=242048" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight:normal">http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.ASpx?AR=242048</a>

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