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Microsoft Plans 128bit Windows 8 & Cancels Works

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Microsoft Plans 128bit Windows 8 & Cancels Works

If you're about to upgrade to Windows 7 and you're unsure about making the jump from 32bit to 64bit don't be - Microsoft plans to have us on 128bit by Windows 8...

The news comes courtesy of some lax LinkedIn profile writing courtesy of Robert Morgan, a senior member of the Microsoft Research Team with more than seven years experience. Though now changed, a cached page of his profile showed his status as:

"Working in high security department for research and development involving strategic planning for medium and longterm projects. Research & Development projects including 128bit architecture compatibility with the Windows 8 kernel and Windows 9 project plan. Forming relationships with major partners: Intel, AMD, HP and IBM."

Given the move from 32bit to 64bit (which amongst other things allows far greater RAM to be addressed by a system) has taken so long, the fast jump to 128bit is surprising. Hardware and software support will be required and no doubt the "Forming relationships with major partners: Intel, AMD" part will be crucial to this. Still, Windows 8 isn't expected until 2012 - three years after Windows 7, so there's time to prep yet.

In related news Microsoft has finally taken the sword to its Works productivity software. The suite - which acted like a budget version of Microsoft Office and came preinstalled on many new PCs and laptops - will be replaced by 'Office Starter'. The Starter edition provides stripped down access to ad supported versions of Word and Excel. The likes of Outlook, PowerPoint, etc are missing, but users will be able to upgrade to a full edition from within the software.

Works disappears after more than 20 years on the market. *Sniff*

Links:

+Senior+Research+and+Development+at+Microsoft&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk Robert Morgan cached LinkedIn Profile

Mik3yB

October 9, 2009, 4:05 pm

I knew Linkedin would come in handy one day! How many of TR are on there?

BobaFett

October 9, 2009, 4:55 pm

128 bits?! I assume this is for registers and not memory addressing? 64 bits already allows addressing of 16 exabytes, which is equivalent to more than 8 million 2TB hard disks.





To quote Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1...





"128-bit processors could become prevalent when 16 exbibytes of addressable memory is no longer enough (128-bit processors would allow memory addressing for 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 bytes (~340.3 undecillion bytes or 281,474,976,710,656 yobibytes ). However, physical limits make such large amounts of memory currently impossible, given that amount greatly exceeds the total data stored on Earth."

Steve

October 9, 2009, 5:25 pm

Paul Thurrott says:





"Wow. I have to admit, the most amazing thing about this rumor is that anyone believed it. I won't single anyone out, but spare me. It's completely and utterly bogus. Obviously."





There we have it.

Matt G Baish

October 9, 2009, 5:25 pm

yeah - who would ever need more than 640K RAM?!!?!





;^)





Seriously though - does seem to be a bit of a gimmick - but hey future proofing can never be bad

Technology changes, and so sho

October 9, 2009, 5:38 pm

_OR_ 128-bit data buses would allow the shuttling around of twice as much 64-bit data at once, thereby further increasing parallelism in computing. Not only would we have mutliple cores, but the ability to shuttle more than one data stream at once.

ilovethemonkeyhead

October 9, 2009, 5:43 pm

*waits patiently for windows 8 RC*

Gordon394

October 9, 2009, 5:59 pm

@Steve - nice chap as Paul Thurrott is we'll wait for an official Microsoft comment. Could equally be false as true

xbrumster

October 9, 2009, 6:45 pm

I dont think general consumers will catch up with the speed technology improves, let along spending xtra money on new machines...

Oliver Levett

October 9, 2009, 6:59 pm

64bit versions of Windows have been around for years, so there may well be a gradual transition from the OS supporting 128bit to hardware that normal consumers use supporting 128bit. Though I guess you'd probably phase out 32bit in favour of 64bit which is much more prevalent now than a few years ago.

Matt G Baish

October 9, 2009, 7:04 pm

@Technology changes, and so should you; Nice name - shame about your extremely simplified way of looking at technology. A little bit of knowledge NEQ expert.





Hey why don`t we just jump straight to 65536-bit addressing! :) Because, bigger does not necessarily = better. Also seeing as how many `data streams` are 1-bit serial in nature then we already have "the ability to shuttle more than one data stream at once".

BobaFett

October 9, 2009, 7:12 pm

@Technology changes...: the 32-bit Pentium had a 64-bit bus, the nVidia GTX 285 has a 512-bit memory bus. You cannot infer the integer or address register size of a processor from the width of a bus that it may be connected to.

jopey

October 9, 2009, 7:37 pm

Graphics cards have 128/256/512bit bus widths. Plus x86 processors have 128bit (upcoming 256bit) FPU units. It's not far fetched for an OS and CPU to go 128bit. It would just be for performance purposes and not because of a register space limit. 128bit wide execution would greatly improve the performance of 128bit encryption/decryption and IPv6... the former is very common.

BobaFett

October 9, 2009, 7:47 pm

@Gordon: what's the first screen shot supposed to be showing? It's also entirely possible that Robert Morgan was simply exaggerating a bit on his work experience. He wouldn't be the first.

MSIC

October 9, 2009, 7:57 pm

I'm curious - is anyone aware of even the rumor of a 128-bit CPU (for a home PC)?


Or is microsoft just wanting to look cool so they can say "hey, yeah, we had the software before even Intel was ready" or whatever?

MSIC

October 9, 2009, 7:59 pm

Oh, and as for MS Works, all i can say is thank god! Now there was the kid who hung around the crowd but everyone tried to lose....

Paul W

October 9, 2009, 8:30 pm

"You cannot infer the integer or address register size of a processor from the width of a bus that it may be connected to."





I think that goes for most things in life too.

Gordon394

October 9, 2009, 8:52 pm

@BobaFett - just a shot of Windows 7. Sadly we don't yet have photography of Windows 8 ;)

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