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HTC HD Desire Confirmed

Rumours have been flying about for some time now, but the imminent arrival of the HTC Desire HD, also known as the HTC Ace, has now been confirmed.

The phone has a listing on the Coming Soon section of Mobiles.co.uk, which is an affiliate of Carphone Warehouse.

Though its precise specs are still yet to be confirmed the phone should bring pretty much everything Android offers to the table right now, starting off with a massive 4.3in display, as featured on HTC’s Stateside only Evo 4G. Despite the increase in size the resolution remains at 480 x 800, so as the pixels-per-inch effectively drops the iPhone still has one-up here.

We’ll also have to wait and see whether this giant screen will enjoy AMOLED tech or use Sony’s SLCD tech – though we’d suggest the latter considering the Desire has itself been moved to this technology due to AMOLED shortages.

The next hardware improvement as expected is that the camera also will be upped from 5-megapixels on the Desire, to 8-megapixels on the Desire HD.

The other major difference is that Android 2.2 Froyo will be pre-installed on the handset, though that’s no more than you would expect for what should be the European flagship product.

We can’t confirm the presence of a new Uni-body Aluminium finish either, a la the HTC Legend, as pictures of the Desire HD have yet to emerge, but we remain hopeful as that would make a phone with looks that are as impressive as its hardware.

Also mentioned out in the wild is the arrival of the Desire Z, which should be the Desire with the addition of a sliding keyboard.

We did try to obtain further comment from HTC itself, but unsurprisingly it said that if would not comment on rumour or speculation. So no fun at all.

Link: HTC.com

TechnicPuppet

August 20, 2010, 3:23 pm

With the Desire getting 2.2, this is just not a big enough of a step-up to make it work the upgrade for me.

Orinj

August 20, 2010, 3:44 pm

I love that they've used a picture of the Nokia N73, a non-HTC phone over 4 years old, in place of the 'image coming soon'. Maybe the HTC HD will have retro styling.

CraigD

August 20, 2010, 4:01 pm

real shame they're not upping the resolution with such a large screen, could have been great for web and rdp. Oh well hopefully some high res gingerbread phones before my upgrade in december

Wayne Harris

August 20, 2010, 4:05 pm

i had the HTC Desire but sent it back, i thought it was a great handset, but i couldn't live with that tinny distorted speaker on it when you turned the volume up on speaker-phone and even when making and receiving calls on it, i tried 4 of them and they all did it, hope this new one is a lot better, i settled for the iPhone 4 and i`m well pleased anyway, the missus wants a new phone, so might persuade to get this and have a play with it lol

Enarca

August 20, 2010, 4:11 pm

Is it me or is everyone else completely underwhelmed by this update? The only real difference is the screen size and I would suggest it's a negative rather than a positive.

Charm El Snake

August 20, 2010, 4:30 pm

@Enarca - I, too, will be disappointed if it's just a bigger screen and better camera.


I was hoping the "HD" would mean something, like a high def. screen. What's the point of a bigger screen if you can't get more on it? I'm due a new phone, and one that I could use as an occasional Sat Nav and e-book reader would be nice.

Lee Hammond

August 20, 2010, 4:36 pm

Well, I am not unhappy with my recent HTC Desire purchase now.





If the Desire HD sported a 3.7" screen but at a resoltuion to match or better the iPhone 4, I'd be miffed, but as 3.7" is plenty big enough for me, a non resolution upgraded 4.3" screen doesn't appeal.





As for the camera, I have a proper camera for that, so no big deal there either. The only issue is the version of Android, but as Ihave already de-branded and installed FroYo on my Desire, I don't mind about that either.





I'm sure this will be a great handset, as the Desire is, but it's not enough to make me regret buying the Desire, at all.

Hamish Campbell

August 20, 2010, 4:38 pm

@Wayne - 'settled for the Iphone 4' eh? It's a hard life buddy. :)

piesforyou

August 20, 2010, 6:18 pm

It'll be a tad easier to type on, but really, what the hell. Come on HTC, what have you got hidden up your sleeve?





This definitely warrants a great big 'meh'

Manni

August 20, 2010, 6:41 pm

As it looked pretty obvious that there woulnd't be any real HD screen (ie 4"+ with 720p resolution) on Android until Gingerbread is released (which means early 2011 to get the first products), I too bought an iPhone 4 - Keith will be surprised:). Very happy with it, despite the limitations we all know about.


Android will wait until next year for me, if they resolve the OS update issue.

MGDdrinker

August 20, 2010, 8:39 pm

I see the Desire Hd has 4GB internal app storage (Rom?) while the Desire only has 512MB. I have no idea how limiting the 512MB would be. Can Android apps be stored on the micr SD cards now or not? Any thoughts TR?


http://goo.gl/3WwB

Kaurisol

August 20, 2010, 8:43 pm

i think I'd rather hzve the Desire Z with the slide out physical keyboard. rarely use the on-screen keyboard on my N900 because I like to see all of the message being typed.

Runadumb

August 20, 2010, 8:51 pm

@MGDdrinker 512MB is indeed limiting and gets annoying fast. As of froyo, apps can be made to install on the SD card but it's been slow to be put to use. Google themselves have been dragging their heels with their own apps which has surprised me no end. I thought they would roll out that sort of support day 1 and lead by example. I'm sure as time goes on it will be less of an issue but as of today it's still a pain. Roll on Android 3.0 with minimum specs like 8GB of onboard storage

MGDdrinker

August 20, 2010, 11:11 pm

@Runadumb Thanks for the great info. Looks like as Google decides what they want to do with Android they are perfectly content to burn their customers. 8GB sounds like a pretty good minimum for onboard storage. Oh look that's the minimum for WindowsPhone7. It will be amazing to see WP7 and Gingerbread go head to head, I'm holding onto my money until I how they match up.

Keithe6e

August 21, 2010, 1:54 am

@Manni: I too bought an iPhone 4 - Keith will be surprised:)





Speechless. :)





But on a serous note, if you remember the thread I also knew it had some quirks, and my initial post was to see if any were a massive deal breaker. Have you held of doing the latest update?, I have just in case I want to JB, just use Opera instead of Safari for browsing, just in case. :)

Manni

August 21, 2010, 2:48 pm

@Keith: I know you did, I just could not understand why you had detected from my comments that I was not seriously considering the iPhone.





No, I have updated to 4.0.2. I do not plan to jailbreak until 4.1 is available anyway, as I need full AVCRP, which is still NOT available in iPhones. Can't believe how long it takes them to implement full BT support for stereo headphones...





I'm much more annoyed with the stupid limitations of functions like quick toggling for wifi or BT. I really cannot see any reason why this is not allowed, and I would JB for that reason only (SBSsettings). Why don't they allow a shortcut to the most used settings if they don't want the widgets?





You will be even more surprised to hear that I have signed up as an iPhone developer and am in the process of absorbing Objective C and xCode. After 25 years away from programming, that's quite a shock! My thinking is, if you put that much money into a phone, why not try to get some of it back?





And by the way, iTunes IS a pain :)

AJ

August 23, 2010, 2:11 pm

@Manni. Although you seem at great pains to point out the issues with your iPhone and (love it or hate it) iTunes; there must be a huge list of reasons you love it though. Otherwise you'd be owning an Android device.! ;-)





I like the sound of the bigger screen devices. But a big screen like this with no extra resolution is (IMO) pretty pointless.





For me Android will not be a serious contender to the iPhone until Google coordinate everything better. This includes OS updates and data transfers / syncronisation. There are the techies out there that love doing everything themselves, but the majority of users just want everything to be simple. I think Google know this now and are heading in that direction, so next year will be interesting I'm sure.

Manni

August 23, 2010, 4:05 pm

@AJ: totally agree. Of course there are things I love, and as I said I do not regret my purchase. On another hand, the things I thought I would hate are still there:





iTunes on a PC is a bad piece of software. Bloated, unresponsive, it takes over the system, renames my user folders, only allows me to sync my iPhone with one PC/MAC but doesn't provide an easy way to switch, etc. It's OK on a Mac as it's faster and more responsive (although some of the above limitations apply).





On the iPhone:


I love the responsiveness, I think multitaking is better implemented than on Android (the tool on performance and battery life seems almost negligeable, while on Android you have to do some heavy manual/assisted memory management), I love the apps which tend to be there first, and to be of better quality than on Android.


I hate the closeness of the system for the wrong reasons: can't play mkv files, can't copy files to and from it easily, can't do simple things without jailbreaking, like having a quick access to the most used settings.


Android forces to compromises too, and as I said, until there is a real hardware gain on the Android side (larger screen with higher resolution, keyboard), I am happy with my decision.


But it is not because I decided to buy an iPhone and am happy with the compromise at this moment in time that the real downsides of the platform disappear.


I hope that Android will improve over the next year, but until they solve the updates issues and offer a substantially better hardware (in Europe) iOS4 is a better answer to my needs.


Which doesn't mean it's a better platform :)

AJ

August 23, 2010, 4:26 pm

@Manni. You see I consider you to be very high on the scale of "technical / power" user. Whereas myself am somewhere between there and the average Joe. So many of the issues that bug you, wash straight ober me. I suspect these issues don't even register with average Joe at all.





I use a PC (fast one admittedly) but don't notice any issues at all with iTunes. I have to admit though that on my old iPhone 3G iTunes was incredibly slow to backup / sync, whereas on the iPhone 4 it's very fast. I appreciate though that iTunes brings all my updating into one slick place, there is no need to use different apps to do different things with the phone.





I'd never consider JailBreaking my phone (sure sign of the ultra-techy) and the faster access to certain features just seems like a very minor inconvienience indeed to be honest. But that's just me. If I want to turn BT or WLAN on and off I think it's very easy and only takes me a few seconds.





As you say, Multi-tasking on the iPhone just works, it's simple to manage and it doesn't seem to drain the battery. Spot on Apple !





I have no idea what's the "best platform". I don't really even care. But as a simple, overall user experience the iPhone4 seems to offer me the full package.





One thing though. I'm not sure about all these claims of extended battery life on the iPhone4. I don't think it last me any longer than my old 3G in everyday use. I play games, use lots of apps, have the brightness up a little and it's very easy to kill the battery in a few hours.

PGrGr

August 23, 2010, 11:26 pm

I have a Desire. Multitask all the time. Nothing to it... not quite sure what you are alluding to there, Manni. I admit that the animations etc aren't quite as smooth as iphones which I have played with. I'm hoping that the Froyo update might help with that. (I probably am geeky enough to jailbreak/root/whatever the phone, but I just can't be bothered). I used to have task managers etc to help with memory management, but I now never use them and have deleted all but one, which I still hardly ever need.

Sulla

August 26, 2010, 10:25 pm

The listing appears to have been removed from the 'Coming soon' page - was this just to test the market?

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