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HP Announces Pre 3 And Veer Smartphones

David Gilbert


HP Announces Pre 3 And Veer Smartphones

HP announced two new smartphones at its press conference last night, the Pre 3 and its smaller brother the Veer, both of which will run webOS 2.2.

The Pre 3 is the successor to the Palm Pre 2 but without the Palm moniker (which now seems to be gone forever) but with some boosted specs. The Pre 3 has the familiar sliding portrait QWERTY keyboard but comes with a 3.6in, 800 x 480 display, which is a marked improvement over the previous model which had a resolution of 480 x 320. It has a 5 megapixel camera with auto focus and LED flash, 720p HD video, a front-facing camera for video calling, mobile hotspot, and webOS 2.2. Powering all this is an impressive 1.4GHz Qualcomm MSM 8x55 CPU. It also has 802.11a/b/g/n 5GHz, Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, A-GPS, a 1230 mAh battery, HSPA+ and EVDO Rev A and 512MB DRAM.

The Pre 3 will be like a mini-companion for the TouchPad tablet which was also announced last night. The in-built Touchstone technology will allow for wireless charging as in previous incarnations of the Pre, but it will also be able to “talk” to the TouchPad in a feature called touch-to-share. This allows for the easy transfer of a website, document, song, text or call from the phone to the tablet – or vice versa – simply by tapping the two devices together. The Pre 3 is going to be available in the summer and no pricing or carriers have been announced as of yet.


If the Pre has taken the crown as HP’s flagship smartphone, the second phone announcement last night takes the crown as the smallest. The HP Veer is HP’s smallest ever smartphone but packs a punch despite its diminutive size. The Veer will take the place of the Palm Pixi Plus which was a bit of a let down in looks and performance. The Veer has a 2.6in 320 x 400 display, a 5 megapixel camera, 8GB of storage, an accelerometer, proximity and light sensors, Touchstone compatibility, and mobile hotspot support.

All of this will be powered by a Qualcomm's Snapdragon 7230 processor running at 800MHz and will run webOS 2.2 like the Pre 3. The big difference between this and the Pixi Plus is obviously the slide out portrait QWERTY keyboard but whether this will work with such a small form factor is another question. The phone will be released this spring but no pricing or carriers have yet been announced. (surprise, surprise).

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February 10, 2011, 5:43 am

"HP Announces Pre 3 And Veer Smartphones"...and still hasn't learned the lesson from Palm that announcing your future products an eon (in the tech world) before they will actually become available, is a sure-fire way of undermining that product's impact.

Come the summer, few people will be even mildly impressed with those specs, let alone that ancient design and horrible keyboard. (I realise some like the keyboard, if they have tiny finger tips :) )

HP dropped the ball, as expected. If they launched these phones today, world wide, then they might stand a chance of gaining some significant market share. The tablet looks competent - if you're in to tablets. But Web OS on a PC platform does sound very promising. Out of all the announcements today, that is the real eye-popper :)


February 10, 2011, 1:17 pm

I was really looking forward to the announcement last night but, was left disappointed. Hardware wise i'm impressed, not blown away. Screen size is good, resolution is good, may not have a dualcore processor but the thing looks very fast. I haven't used a Pre for any real length of time so I don't know how I would like the form factor but none of these are my negatives. No the DOA for me is 16GB of memory with no expandable storage. I had that 2 years ago and it's no longer enough.

All I really want tons of memory for is music but I really like having as much music as I can on my phone as I listen to it all the time. 2 YEARS ago I had 16GB, 2 years.

Why can't they let the consumer decide how much memory they want by letting them add an SD card? I don't care if it's only available for media. The option really is a huge bonus as when you change phones all that "extra" memory comes with you. Then you have the option of buying more at your own leisure.

The other negative was it's not launching until the summer!?? Did palm/HP not notice the massive amount of negative press the original Pre got being announced too early? How could they make the same mistake again? Baffling.

Oh and I see the original Pre and Pixi will no longer be getting Webos 2.0. Maybe that is a good thing for the platform and considering the Pre will be 2 years old, not entirely unexpected.


February 10, 2011, 1:50 pm


Got this off a commenter on another site. Sums the announcement up nicely lol


February 10, 2011, 2:17 pm

I always fall in love with WebOS when i see it in action. Just a shame it has not had the same impact as iOS or Android.

But it is really all about the Apps. And I don't see the new HP WebOS bringing more 3rd party developers to the game then the Palm WebOS was able to.


February 10, 2011, 2:32 pm

@Runadumb That is brilliant and you are right, it does sum it up perfectly.

jamie hancox

February 10, 2011, 2:44 pm

@Runadum - too true. I had a treo once. It was ace....

Glenn Gore

February 10, 2011, 4:11 pm

I played with a Palm Pre when they came out, but the teensy tiny little keyboard was completely unusable for me, being even smaller than a Blackberry Curve, so the new Pre does not excite me at all, let alone an even smaller phone like the Veer. No one was allowed to touch the tablet at the event, so that fact plus no pricing, 6 months before availability, and even longer times before 3G, 4G, 5G, etc versions are released, leave me thinking it is nothing more than a prototype at this point.


February 10, 2011, 6:57 pm

From the comments I've read online HP seem to have underestimated the goodwill that the Palm brand has built up and throwing it out may have been a move they come to regret.

The devices do look good and webOS looks as amazing as ever but as others have said six months from now we can only guess what will be available.

For me the biggest ommission has to be the pricing though. I think we can be fairly sure that they didn't leave it out because it will be bargaintastic. Manufacturers seem to be doing this more and more. What's the point of hyping up your wares and then rolling them out at some crazy price point, thus instantly killing any buzz? (*cough* Galazy Tab).

If the base model Tablet doesn't come in lower than a bottom end iPad you have to wonder how much success they're going to have regardless of how good it is. The masses view Apple as a premium brand and anyone else will find it very hard to justify a higher premium.

I still wish HTC had managed to bag Palm. I'm sure by now we'd have seen a veritable plethora of webOS devices.


February 10, 2011, 7:38 pm

You watch, soon they'll announce a carrier exclusivity and it'll fall into obscurity when that carrier fails to market it...


February 10, 2011, 7:50 pm


Pretty sure the Veer will be free on contract, and the Pre3 will be $199 (with a swift price drop after launch).

Agree re: the tablet. Not sure what their value proposition is vs. the iPad. At least the Android tablets have a different form factor.


February 10, 2011, 8:39 pm

HP should have read the memo from Nokia. The game has moved on and it's about more than just technology nowadays. I don't see HP being able to recreate the Android, iOS or even the Symbian ecosystem in time to become relevant.

Good OS but like the late BeOS can't see it going very far without the rest..

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