Home / News / Gadget News / CoPilot Live Launches for iPhones

CoPilot Live Launches for iPhones

by

CoPilot Live Launches for iPhones

It seems CoPilot wants in on the pie that TomTom and Navigon also have their eyes on - turn by turn navigation for the iPhone. At £25.99, CoPilot Live is the cheapest navigation app to yet hit the store - although you'll be paying £59.99 for European maps.

Notable features include full 7-digit postcode support - something many pre-installed in-car sat-navs still fail at, incredibly - both 2D and 3D maps, and lane and turn guidance. Multi-stop route planning is supported, turn-by-turn voice commands go almost without saying and automatic portrait and landscape orientation is present. Impressive, considering the app only needs 215MB of free space - that's less than I've had to dedicate to Monkey Island!

Also on offer are live, five-day weather reports and CoPilot's LiveLink, which provides location sharing and messaging "live on screen!" - CoPilot's exclamation point, not mine. That suggests, incidentally, that the Apple's SDK does allow navigations applications to access the iPhone's data connection. Following on from that, live traffic information is promised to be added to CoPilot Live on the iPhone later this year. Although it's likely a subscription fee will apply there.

Link:

CoPilot Live for iPhone.

Chris

August 6, 2009, 7:33 pm

Here's something I'm wondering - do any of these new sat-nav solutions for the iPhone use its digital compass a la Google Maps? This would be a great boon for pedestrian navigation, as it wouldn't require you to be moving quickly to get an accurate direction reading. If they are using the compass, maybe we'll start seeing magnetometers in the next generation of stand-alone devices?

Keithe6e

August 6, 2009, 8:29 pm

That's more like it. :)





I assume TR are doing a review as we speak?





I could easily live without the antenna booster and stuff the TomTom gives, Never had a problem locking on etc. So come on TomTom what you waiting for, come out with a decent price point and TR can now do a good Sat-Nav comparison shoot-out.

Keithe6e

August 6, 2009, 8:50 pm

Wow!, Dammit for £26 I'm going to buy now. See what it's like getting me home.


I'll reply here tomorrow with a mini-review. :)

xbrumster

August 6, 2009, 8:58 pm

@Chris, I think using Google maps on iphone is out of the question as Apple has not licenced it from Google (yet)- sourced from somewhere - and most of sat-nav firms are using their own maps...





It may come about on Android OS one day as it's in Google's backyard and they can do whatever they like - certainly something iphone is unable to do so without Google...

Chris

August 6, 2009, 9:24 pm

@xbrumster:


The iPhone has an implementation of Google maps since day 1. My point was that this already uses the compass:





http://www.apple.com/iphone/ip...





My question was, do TomTom/Copilot/Navigon for iPhone use the compass?

Ed

August 6, 2009, 9:32 pm

Hi Chris, I believe the iPhone satnav applications won't be using the compass because for in car use it would be of little use - the iPhone needs to be in the correct orientation for the compass to work properly and being mounted in a car doesn't conform to this. Whether they implement it anyway for use when using the sat nav software while on foot, I don't know, but I'd imagine they wouldn't bother. We'll find out soon enough when we get reviewing.

Barry Ward

August 6, 2009, 9:44 pm

Has this app got speed camera locations? Looks good for the price, although I already have the Navigon app.

Keithe6e

August 6, 2009, 10:18 pm

From another review from another site: (so won't mention).


Driving Views (3D, 2D, driver safety, itinerary, 2D next turn), 2D destination, Day Map, Night Map), Save Current Location, Safety Cameras, Lane Assist and POI Alerts, Modes (car, walking, RV, motorcycle, bicycle), Compass

Barry Ward

August 6, 2009, 10:20 pm

Man I am really torn with this. Some good reviews already for this at pda-247 and gpsdaily. But I already have the Navigon, which turned out pretty well after the update. It's just missing a few features such as full postcode search. Plus, I read this £26 price is an introductory price and will increase, just like the Navigon app did. What do I do? ARGHHHHH!!!

xbrumster

August 6, 2009, 10:37 pm

@Chris, arh, I mean using Google maps for turn-by-turn sat-nav softies - woundln't it be interesting to use Google Street View in sat-navs...

Chris

August 6, 2009, 10:55 pm

Hi Ed, thanks for that, pretty much as expected. It's just that I'd have thought a major difference between a phone and a dedicated satnav is that you're more likely to use the phone as a pedestrian.


But then you'd probably just use Google maps.... :)

Barry Ward

August 6, 2009, 11:22 pm

Can anyone tell us what happens if you are playing music along with the app? The Navigon turns the music volume down when giving instructions, which is great.

Barry Ward

August 7, 2009, 12:46 am

I gave in and bought it. Music from your library plays just fine in the background. However, unlike the Navigon app, it doesn't lower the volume of the music when instructions are given. Also, unlike the Navigon (with its update), you can't tap a POI's phone number to give them a call. Perhaps they will add these in an update. Seems great so far, but won't test it on the road till tomorrow. Loads of options, lots of voices to choose from (I picked a sexy sounding lady of course).

Sleeper

August 7, 2009, 1:41 am

Can it cope with incoming calls without jumping out og the program?

Kamran

August 7, 2009, 7:01 am

Does it have speed camera?

Barry Ward

August 7, 2009, 12:27 pm

It does not have speed cameras at the moment, but they are promised in an update (just like Navigon did). As for incoming calls, I will drive to work this morning using it, and ask my colleague at work to call me while its on, then report back.

Barry Ward

August 7, 2009, 1:19 pm

I have a couple of niggles I don't like about this app after testing it on the road. They are regarding interruptions and exiting the app.


Firstly, if you load the app and set a route, then decide to change your music playlist for example, you exit the app, do what you want to do, then go back into the app, and it welcomes you with the menu but FORGETS YOUR ROUTE! This isn't very good at all. There is no excuse for forgetting a route as it is easy for an app to save this information and look for the saved information at startup.


Also, when you have a phone call, on ending the phone call you are returned to the app and IT DOES remember your route. However, you are still welcomed with the menu asking where you want to go. You can see the 3D map behind the menu and can see it is still following a route to your destination, but you have to tap the little cross in the corner of the menu to get rid of it just so you can carry on with your journey.


Basically, if you are interrupted or exit the app, when the app returns it should check to see if a destination has been set- if one has, then it should continue on that route with NO menu appearing, making it more user-friendly and less fiddly while you are on the road.

Keithe6e

August 7, 2009, 2:48 pm

@Barry, Got this App yesterday, but must admit not had any phone calls etc so can't comment on App exit etc. Hopefully things like this will be ironed out on update.





But everything else works like a champ for me, in fact found me 2 new shortcuts to work, and I only live 19 miles away from work. The shortcuts it found were very clever too, one is on the way to work there is a little village were lots of cars park on one side of the road, this causes traffic jams, it bypassed this for me. Another is were I would have gone straight up to a roundabout turned right to another, but after turning right it's also known to get bad traffic jams, so it sent me another way to the 2nd roundabout so that I came in from another entrance, avoiding the jam. Also there were doing some temporary road works, so I had to de-tour the re-routing works instantly and it doesn't kick up a fuss. The voice commands are very easy to understand, the screen very easy to follow. Talking of voice commands there are plenty to choose from, even a lady with a Polish type accent, I thought was rather fitting for the UK. :) Having full postcode search is very nice. Points of interest work and show on the map nicely, it even picked up a guitar shop.





Now if I was being really picky, the text entry doesn't use the built in IPhone keypad, it's not that the one it uses is bad, but I prefare a QUERTY layout, rather than the ABC types, they might be a setting for it, this thing is very configurable.





Oh, one really useful advantage over say using the GoogleMaps, is that it keeps a lot cooler, I assume because GoogleMaps is constantly accessing the internet too.





I think TomTom has really now got to think very hard at one price point it comes out at.

Barry Ward

August 7, 2009, 3:48 pm

Agreed Keith.





Regarding the keyboard, I wish it would use the standard iPhone one too, but there is no option for that. You have to tap one button to show numbers and symbols, but then you'd think you would have to tap that same button to revert back to letters, but you have to tap a different one! Doesn't make much sense. However, this is only a minor gripe.





Main things I like:


- large buttons in the menu


- easy to use


- adding Contacts addresses works much better than the Navigon app


- tapping a POI on the map while driving gives you the info (although you can't call them yet)


- plenty of options including different voices and map colours


- auto day/night colours (unlike Navigon)


- stores work address as well as home address for easy access (in My Places, you have Home, Work, Recent, or Favourites listed)


- easy full post code search


- multiple stops available on one trip, which you can plan before you head off





Things I'd like to see in an update:


- speed cameras (already promised)


- when returning from a phone call, don't display the menu if it is still on a planned route


- when you exit and return to the app, it should remember a planned route if there is one


- lower volume of library music if playing when direction instructions are to be given (like the Navigon)


- allow the user to tap a phone number of a POI to phone that number. Phone numbers are displayed atm, but they don't do anything





Some of these missing features are very important and should be addressed asap, such as forgetting the route when exiting the app. But overall, this has many more options than the Navigon, is easy to use, and with another update it will better the Navigon. As it stands, they are both good in different ways, as the Navigon has speed cameras, lowers music volume when needed, allows you to call a POI, and remembers the route when exiting, as well as not displaying the menu after a phone call.

Luan Bach

August 7, 2009, 6:52 pm

Hi Barry, Have you added your review to the appstore ? Your comments are the kind of ones I find very usefull when browsing the apps.

Barry Ward

August 7, 2009, 7:11 pm

Yes I have Luan. In fact, I copied and pasted my list above ;)

Stewart Clark

August 7, 2009, 7:52 pm

I bought Navigon but it was so bad Apple gave me my money back. Installed Copilot yesterday and for £25.99 it's a bargin. I have one major niggle which I can live with but it would be nice if fixed. The turn instructions are fixed and the minimum is 500 yards. If the turns are less than 500 yards apart you only get the 50 yard warning. If the accuracy is slighty adrift you are on the junction before receiving the instruction. Other than that it knocks Navigon into a cocked hat and TomTom I do not need your hardware so the software only needs to be cheap.

Barry Ward

August 7, 2009, 8:32 pm

I wasn't as impressed with this app on the way home as I was on the way to work this morning. Basically, there was a couple of times I went round a roundabout, and it thought I'd turned off early when in fact I hadn't, and it was giving me instructions to turn around while I was still on my way round. Then when I came off the roundabout it corrected itself, but it shouldn't do this- the Navigon doesn't.


Also, the Navigon found me a nice little shortcut through some side roads instead of waiting at some main traffic lights. The Copilot took me to the lights.


Finally, there is a point where I need to cross the road by turning right then immediately left. The Navigon says "Please turn right then immediately turn left". The Copilot just told me to turn right and nothing more, even though the route was the same on the map.


Other than that, there was one improvement over the Navigon. There is a point on my journey where I drive down a dual carriageway which runs alongside the motorway. The Navigon stupidly moves me onto the motorway sometimes, thinking I am on there instead, then moves me back. Likewise, when I was on that part of the motorway once, it moved my location to the dual carriageway! The Copilot kept me on the correct road all the way down it. This is something the Navigon can easily fix with a bit of artificial intelligence.


I am glad I have given this app 4 instead of 5 in iTunes. It is great, but needs some work to be perfect.

Keithe6e

August 7, 2009, 9:28 pm

@Barry, there was a couple of times I went round a roundabout, and it thought I'd turned off early when in fact I hadn't, and it was giving me instructions to turn around while I was still on my way round.





I did notice that when I had to de-tour that the re-routing happened really fast, in your example it looks like it's happening too fast, should be an easy fix for them, a longer delay before deciding you have gone off track should do it.





@Barry, Also, the Navigon found me a nice little shortcut through some side roads instead of waiting at some main traffic lights. The Copilot took me to the lights.





Did you have it set to Shortest or Quickest route, I had mine on shortest and it picked a couple of nice shortcuts.





@Barry: Finally, there is a point where I need to cross the road by turning right then immediately left. The Navigon says "Please turn right then immediately turn left". The Copilot just told me to turn right and nothing more, even though the route was the same on the map.





Yeah, I did notice that when junctions etc happen fast it doesn't talk for all. I kind of looked at the map at the first instruction, but yeah would be better if it was a little more descriptive when this happens.

Barry Ward

August 7, 2009, 10:22 pm

"Did you have it set to Shortest or Quickest route, I had mine on shortest and it picked a couple of nice shortcuts."





Where is that option? I can't find it anywhere.

comments powered by Disqus