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Be Respectfully Rejects BPI Invitation

Gordon Kelly


Be Respectfully Rejects BPI Invitation

So the deal between the BPI and six of our largest ISPs yesterday turned our comments section red hot with many of you (rightfully) frustrated, disappointed and just plain furious. This should put something of a smile back on your face...

Be Unlimited, which is fast becoming something of a people's champion, has stepped into the breach to proclaim it has politely declined the BPI's membership offer and will not be divulging any user details unless instructed directly by legal court order. Here's what Oli White, Be's Head of Marketing, had to say:

Be welcomes today’s announcement form the BPI that ISPs should engage in communicating the issue of illegal file-sharing to their customers. As Be grows its member base we are getting an increasing number of requests from 3rd parties for information about members who they believe have infringed their copyright or other intellectual property rights. Be has a policy of making it clear to our members of how Be deals with these requests.

Where a content owner (like a record label or a games company) approaches Be and requests the details of a member because of an alleged copyright infringement we will not supply this information direct to the requester unless they have a Court Order. To keep members informed of what’s going on in most circumstances we will try to contact the member in question to make them aware that we have had a request from the rights holder.

Under circumstances when a Court Order is served on Be, which requires us to supply information about member activity, we will comply with the Order and pass the relevant contact information to the rights holder (and in accordance with our Privacy and cookie policy). In this case under most circumstance we will not inform the member that this has occurred as this may compromise the investigation related to the Court Order.

Can't say fairer than that: protect the customer to the max and forewarn them of BPI investigation up until the point the law forbids them. How will the BPI react? Well, issuing thousands of individual court orders may seem like a powerful way to get its point across but in reality doing it (and getting each approved) is a laborious and time consuming process so the appeal is likely to wane quickly. Instead expect the BPI to come back at Be a few months down the line. Before that it will hope to gather the momentum to make its proposals harder to ignore.

Simultaneously expect thousands of customers to switch over to Be while waving two fingers (one if you're American, but UK based) in the direction of BSkyB, BT Retail, Carphone Warehouse, Orange, Tiscali and Virgin Media.

Kudos Be, kudos.




July 25, 2008, 5:53 pm

Everyone count to 3, 1..2...3 finger in general direction of ISPs with BPI, then phone BE! Great News


July 25, 2008, 5:54 pm

Where does O2 fit into all this? I've always been under the impression they were linked to Be in some way.. It would be nice to know how all the other providers stack up.. otherwise good on you Be !! You may just have single handedly quadrupled your subscriber database in one short week....


July 25, 2008, 6:10 pm

@mrdoogso Good question. We're all waiting for O2 to come forward and make its position clear (as are many of us on ISPs not listed here) but I would assume - as the owner of Be - it will follow the same standpoint for now. Inconsistencies with business practices aren't looked upon kindly in a court ;)

The Pope

July 25, 2008, 6:15 pm



July 25, 2008, 7:43 pm

I think the question is how long will they choose to stand their ground because ultimately they are affiliated with O2 and i dont feel O2 is the kind of company that will choose not to jump onboard the BPI ship when most of the big names in the business have decided to go along with a ridiculous system.

I don't see how these companies will be benefiting from this agreement although i feel their must be some kind of incentive.

Well, I cant wait to see how all this pans out.

Ben 3

July 25, 2008, 10:23 pm

At no point has it been said that any of the six ISPs that have signed up to the BPI scheme will be passing them any information. The BPI is passing the ISPs information, and then it is the ISPs themselves that are contacting their own customers. There has also been no mention of the ISPs doing this for anyone else except the BPI

Be, however (from their own press release), will send a customer a letter if ANY rights holder contact them about one of their customers (and won't send a letter if they get a court order). So how that is that much different from the BPI thing, I don't know

Martin Wainika

July 25, 2008, 10:32 pm

I'm a big fan of Trusted Reviews but i don't know what there position is with this item, It seems to me that they condone illegal file sharing whether mp3's or movies etc.

Now i'm not on the side of the BPI either and seem to think a new model needs to be setup for distributing music or movies preferably without the need for DRM.

In the end everything has to be paid for and at a fair price, it would be lovely to get everything for free but that won't happen


July 25, 2008, 10:50 pm

I still can't get Be! :(


July 26, 2008, 3:41 am

@ Alex

Have you tried Cee! =D


July 26, 2008, 4:43 am

@Martin - It's all pretty much here ;)


Sunny 1

July 26, 2008, 6:27 am

Have been a proud member of Be* for more than 2 years (May 2006). I went for it when trustedreviews.com first post the news about them. I think I was one of the first ones when my phone exchange went live for Be*, I was on waiting list for it go live on my area.

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