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As pointed out before, Nest can't control your hot water when it is provided by a hot water tank, as it is in the majority of UK homes. Hive can. Other similar systems like Evohome can. Nest can't. It can be as 'smart' as anything, but if it can't control one of the major components of the system, then that has to be a major deficiency wouldn't you think? Style over substance.But no, you keep on plugging the Nest for some reason as the best solution - a paid advertorial rather than a review perhaps?Do you not take any notice of the comments people make on your reviews? If not, what is the point?
It's a fair criticism of Nest and I will update this review to re-iterate this weakness.
However, I think you're overstating the the problem here. The last three places I've lived in have had combi boilers, and the last one I didn't delivered hot water 'on demand' rather than requiring it to be stored. I don't have hard evidence of the percentage of combi to non-combi households in the UK, but if you can find a verified number then that would be very useful.
Ultimately, there is no single perfect system, but provided you have a combi boiler Nest is clearly one of the best. Personally, I'd also argue there's far less need to control hot water in a 'smart' manner. Provided you have some other means of controlling the water, surely that and a Nest would be sufficient? That's up for debate.
We do read comments all the time, but we publish lots of articles and have lots of comments on the site, so we can't catch, respond and take on board every single one. Some will slip through.
As for your 'paid advertorial' nonsense, just because you don't agree with something that doesn't make it corrupt. Nest is a very successful product for a very good reason: it's a good product. I think there's enough third-party evidence by now to prove that point.
Combi boilers providing hot water on-demand for the whole house are a more recent introduction, and more common in smaller homes and apartments. But most UK homes would still have a traditional hot water tank. I have never lived in a home with a combi boiler.
Of course, you can still leave your existing central heating controller in place to control the hot water, and that is what Nest recommend - just switch the CH part to off, and leave HW on.But that defeats a large part of the smart behavior. If the purpose of Nest is to not switch the CH until you are coming home for example, then what point is there in it still switching the HW on? Why do you want the HW coming on and off every day if unoccupied? Oh, you can still switch it off manually is Nest's advice. Well, I may as well do that with my CH then! Doh!
The point about ignoring comments is that YOU replied to exactly the same comment I made last time you looked at Nest, and said then you would update your review, but didn't and now have ignored this issue again. Leading to my suspicion that you seemed keen not to paint Nest in a negative light...
Iw I can agree with your comments about the hot water. My last house had a combi, but my current one doesn't and I know I waste a lot of money heating up the cylinder every morning and evening. Having said that I think this looks like a great product and was considering buying one when it was first released (I think they used to be £180 then?) I probably will hold off for now though, Until they introduce HW controls at least.
Well apologies for forgetting, then. Glad we could sort it out this time. :)
At £250 plus installation costs of at least another £60 this is just an expensive thermostat unless you're starting with a new property. It might save you money if you're an inefficient user but it will never recoup its costs for most
Granted it automates programmes but is that really worth the expense? No wonder the Nest stand in my local store is a pretty lonely place.
"At £249 (installed) it is little more expensive than its main rivals: Tado and Evohome" How do you get that? Tado (installed) is £299 - so how does that work??
TADO is much better and in my situation, two professional out of the house, varying schedules - it has almost paid for itself already. The one thing these thermostats don't do - which TADO does exceptionally well is to turn off the heat when you leave the house.
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