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Has this product recently been refreshed, or does this review refer to the same model that was originally released by Logitech in 2009?
Hi, This is indeed the oldie Squeezebox Radio, same as was released in 2009 aside from some software updates. I noticed it was a hole in our reviews archive and thought it'd be worth taking a closer look at, as it's still quite popular. It's bit out of the norm to review something quite this established, but hopefully will be of use to some readers.
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Thanks for clarifying, thought that might be the case. I still found the review useful!
I've liked the look of these for some time, but the mono sound has always put me off considering it's £110.
It's a fair point, but I'd prioritise driver quality over mono/stereo at this size.
I have had one of these for over a year and they are great - especially if you have other Squeezeboxes. I have been using mine as an alarm for all this time - however note that Squeezeboxes require a server -either mysqueezebox.com in the cloud which only requires an internet connection or a local instance opf Squeezebox server running on a computer, server or NAS. Unfortunately their seem to be problems using the alram reliably with the cloud service ... (see forums.slimdevices.com for more) ... but I am VERY happy with the device...
This looks like it has enough innovation to seriously consider as an upgrade if you have one of the last generation of internet radios. I've had my Pure Evoke Flow for about a year and am totally happy with it, once you live with a still quite clunky interface for navigating 1000's of stations.
"..while Pure's Internet Radio solutions like the Evoke Flow and Oasis are actually more expensive."
To be fair, the Evoke Flow does have FM and DAB so I'd expect it to be more expensive (about £30 more).
Fair point - a DAB in the Squeezebox would be nice. It's seems emblematic of the different approaches of Pure and Logitech, and both seem to work pretty well in their own ways.
Always nice to see an internet radio reviewed, even an oldie. Surely everybody has some sort of clock-radio device by their bedside? An internet radio can be a much better option, especially if (most unlike the Pure Evoke) it has a decent interface. It is great to have the freedom to access the full range of BBC podcasts/Listen Again material, and to stream music from a NAS, or receive stations not otherwise available, like the World Service.I don't think stereo is an especially valuable feature in a bedside unit, and sound quality need not be hifi quality. Realistically you are not going to perceive the stereo sound-stage from the pillow, and volumes are necessarily muted unless you have an understanding/deaf partner.A remote control was never something I could see any use for in a bedside unit, after all the main device is always within reach. Wrong! It's great to have a remote for the other half's radio. When she has left it playing all night and has fallen asleep I can switch it off without having to tip-toe around the bed.I think it would make for a better review if the reviewer used the IR in situ at the bedside. It would throw up issues like how easy the UI is to operate half asleep, sans-lunettes. Whether the display brightness control is effective, whether the dislplay is legible from both stood over the device as well as peering at it from the pillow. Ease and flexibility of alarms, fail-safe options in case of internet outage, etc.And hey, you might ask for over-time payment as well!
@AndrewTRPerhaps you could notice the other hole in your IR review database, the Roberts Stream 83i?
clunky interface - you hit the nail on the head. The Pure Evoke is a potentially good device hamstrung by a horrendous interface, unredeemed through several firmware upgrades. If you want the full DAB/IR/FM/NAS capability in a bedside unit, look at the Roberts Stream 83i instead (I have no association with either, honest)
We'll look into it Martin. I've always found the 83i very... odd looking. Think it's the 80s ghetto blaster lines and red buttons. We should be getting one of their new internet radios in soon, even if we don't end up reviewing that particular model.
Until recently I was using a Pure Tempus-1 as my bedside setup - the top touch-sensitive snooze handle is absolutely brilliant for half-asleep (or three-quarters drunk) operation. That reminds me - it's probably time to ditch the wake-up light and start using it again.
Viewing angles are pretty good on the display. Not quite AMOLED levels, but not too shabby.
Just to let you know that the screen on the Squeezebox is large enough for a very shortsighted person to see at night ... can't vouch for the remote as I've kept the Radio on my side of the bed!
I agree it has been hit with the ugly stick, hard. BUT, it is great as a bedside unit, with tactile physical controls easily accessible to the somnolent listener. Hooks up with Twonky on a NAS, does DAB, FM as well as IR, useful alarm configurations and decent sound quality. A remote is included.
The big let down for me is the display - there is no intelligent control over brightness - either it lights up the whole room at night, or it is invisible by day. Viewing angles are poor, and it is too small - particularly length-wise - which results in the menu timing out before the title of a podcast scrolls through to its end. I would have traded the USB input, maybe even the ethernet too, for a bigger, better, OLED display with more intelligent brightness options.
I was looking to buy an internet radio last October. Well I looked into this one I found many many users complaining bitterly about massive problems with it and the fact that Logitech was doing nothing to fix them. I think the Logitech forum especially was full of these posts, far more than I would expect as normal.
I don't know if these issues still exist but I'd recommend that any prospective purchaser takes a good look at the support forum first.
I've had enormous problems with my Squeezebox Boom and found Logitech similarly useless. It seems that every other firmware release breaks key functionality such as the alarm. I've overslept quite a few times because of it. Touch wood, right now it's working.
I still love the Boom for many reasons, especially the sound quality, but buyers should beware as for these devices Logitech's software doesn't do justice to its hardware.
The Roberts 202 is also worth a look. It's the one I ended up getting for my gf because it's one of very few internet radios that can run on batteries.
Not the greatest sound quality but my gf doesn't really care about that, so she was very happy with it.
These problems occur if you use the logitech cloud service to access radio/ muisc etc. The alarm seems to be robust if you use the Logitech software on a PC/ server/ NAS on your network - the only problem is that this needs to be on 24/7.
I have been using the radio as an alarm for 18 months using the server software (SqueezeBox Server) on a NAS without a problem (well for the last 17 months!). And actually, the number of complaints on the Squeezebox forum (forums.slimdevices.com) seem to have reduced, so I am not sure whether they have been solved. But as a radio/ music player this is definitely excellent!
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