HP Outs MacBook Influenced Envy Laptops Comments

Looks nice but unless it's cheaper than a MacBook why would you not just get the real thing?

And why can't they just have two mouse buttons?!!! You don't have to copy Apple's rubbish (IMHO) ideas along with the good ones.

ravmaina wrote "Looks nice but unless it's cheaper than a MacBook why would you not just get the real thing?"
well if you require a PC that can run windows out of box then you might need it... But I have very (Very very) much doubt on how a windows pc will work without a proper physical right mouse button.. its a deal breaker for many.. (and the price for me .. :))

It's about time someone offered a 15" laptop to rival the MBP 15" in terms of thickness, weight and build quality so this looks promising but does look too much of an obvious copy.

I have to agree with ravmania, Apple have stuck to the single/no button design for too long just to be different and IMO lose potential switchers because of it, it works well once you get used to it but having 2 buttons is just easier and more obvious to use - no need for HP to copy Apple's approach.

How can you envy something you own?

Spectacularly pointless. It's not even as if it's much cheaper than a proper Mac. What is the market for this - people who can't get on with OS X but still desperately want to be seen as Mac owners?

Calling it the Envy at least shows they have a sense of humour. Why not call just call it the Obvious Knock-Off?

"Looks nice but unless it's cheaper than a MacBook why would you not just get the real thing?"

Because you probably get better connectivity (ports) for the same or slightly less cheaper?

@ravmania & MrGodfrey: Eh? For the same reason you'd buy any better product in the style you like? It'd be like not buying a netbook from a manufacturer other than Asus because it's clearly a copy of the eee. From the specs given, HP's offerings are better than the ones from Apple as they're lighter and the 13" has a brighter screen. Obviously you do have to look at the whole package and OS X or Apple's cheaper starting prices may sway a few people back in that direction.

I shan't be getting one since I don't like the mismatched body and screen and the thick bezel but it's good to see some choice, at least in this particular style.

I checked out the video on Engaget, and i've got three things to say about the 13" machine.

1. I am loving the battery life extender option - i'll gladly give away 3-5mm for double battery life so well done HP.s

2. Not liking the lack of optical drive - i'll always buy the machine with one rather than without

3. Having used a properly-implemented single-button mouse on my macbook pro in windows, i can say that it takes all of a few hours to become second nature. Change is good sometimes :)

Just thought I'd clarify that my notebook is a HP!!

@Sukanta
I know you said "out of the box" but surely bootcamp isn't too hard to use.

@Paranoyd
I think the Macbooks are overpriced but apart from the Air I'm sure their connectivity is fairly decent.

@Paranoyd
Who needs connectivity when you can have a Macbook Air!

@those decrying the second mouse button on multitouch Macbooks/Pros

You just use two fingers to tap on the pad. Easy peasy lemon squuezy. I'm the resident keyboard and touchpad facist and I find it dead easy.

And before you accuse me of bias <grin>, I am predominantly a Windows/PC user.

You know a debate has gone down the toilet when someone feels the need to say:

"And before you accuse me of bias <grin>, I am predominantly a Windows/PC user."

Because apparently you can't say anything good about Macs without being branded a fanboy.

And concerning the notebook, I'd rather have a Mac than this wannabe. How's that for fanboysim? :)

Xiphias: Yes, but when other manufacturers copied the Eee, they didn't go to the extent of taking away basic features (like a right mouse button) JUST so their machine could look as much like an Eee as possible.

The keen eyed may note a small vertical line at the centre and to the bottom of the mouse pad. It would seem that HP intend this to be a divider between a left and right mouse button click area on the pad. I imagine the implementation won't be perfect, although I'll reserve judgement on that one until HP have refined the pad and its accompanying software. I'm pretty sure it won't be a complete disaster though, HP aren't that dumb.