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The other benefit is that whilst they're still out of stock, if you have one like me you can sell it for £400 profit and move on...
Great review. After some initial grumbles I always look to TR for the definitive verdict. Also, I realise that £499 is a lot for a 16GB phone but I'm pretty sure that I'll get a good bit of that back if I sell it on when - and that's the great part now rather than 2008, it is a when, not an if - a better handset comes out.Think I'm sold on this. Time to join the herd.
Nice review, balanced on the good points but remembering the bad :) Seems like a good enough phone but I'm happy with my Desire for the next 16 months.
A good, fair review Ed!I don't think it's the best phone around but it's no doubt a very good phone. I do think that iOS4 is the big deal here and the fact that it works great on the 3GS kind of lessens the impact of the 4 for me. Apple have maybe kicked themselves in the foot by giving the 3GS all the (important) features although good for them for not just thinking about their bottom line (for once!). iOS has hit a point where it now has most of the features that a smartphone should have and implements them very nicely. There's only minor nitpicks missing which are by no means deal breakers. I'm looking forward to getting the new iPod touch when they release it. Probably around September.
@ravmaniaI second the great anticipation for the Touch. Since we're doing minor nitpicks : for all the fuss they made about multitasking, you'd think they'd have bothered to turn the icons the right way round for landscape view. It'd be really annoying shuffling through eight or so apps, and having to tilt your head round to read the less intuitive icons.
Ok I actually want someone to explain something to me!I have an iPhone 3g. Its an alright phone, mostly I keep it for the games and the ease of texting with a keypad but I don't love it as much as a lot of people.This new iPhone looks pretty enough, and I know everyone liked a higher resolution display and better camera and whatever. But my issues are thus. 1) A small issue really, but why do you give it 7/10 for value when for that price I could buy myself and my little sister each a CAR! Granted it wouldn't be a Mercedes but I could get a nice oldish but workable machine to learn how to drive on (she just turned 17). The point is £600 is a TON of money, a lot more than everyone in the UK except the wealthy or stupid can afford.Secondly, why is it that when high tech Earphones, TVs and Cameras come in the TR shop, they get shooed away because if you listen close, adjust the brightness or zoom in 600x magnification you can see a little bit of noise if you're looking for it, but the iPhone camera gets an A-OK from the team when anyone with a brain can see that its CRAP! I had a better camera on my cheap ass K800i when I got my contract on O2 in 2007! This is a joke and I throw shame on all of you so called reviewers for putting aside your normal and healthy doubt and scepticism whenever you see something shiny shiny that Apple has made.This is the problem with the world of technology as I see it. Apple, in a genius scheme, has branded itself remarkably well, so now that you're hooked they feel that they can sell you 5 year old tech for more than the current higher tech competition. Buy any laptop over an iPad and it will do everything the iPad can do and more for half the price, but it isn't shiny shiny apple and you cant "flick" the menus. The fact that you think a £600 phone is 7/10 for value (by the way at degree level 70% is a first, the highest honour you can get!) just shocks me to my very core.I don't think I can trust TrustedReviews anymore, even though you steered me right in getting my nice 24" BenQ monitor, and my Logitech Wave keyboard and my G500 mouse and my Creative T80 speakers...Because... Apple just owns your soul, and they barely even hinted that they wanted it...
The Lord of all Phones!who now can beat this?
Picked one up yesterday. It's simply the best phone I've ever owned. It would take something monumental to move me away from iPhone to another platform, such as Android. As has always been the case, the real trump card of the iPhone isn't in the techie details, it's the beautifully simple and elegant interface that is so easy to use.
@Kaiser202 - I have to say I agree about the price, especially here in South Africa where the 3GS was retailing at almost £800 at release (sim free of course), which is just plain insanity. I can't imagine what the 4 will demand.I also have to agree/and disagree with you on the review. I think that it was a review that did highlight some of the flaws of the handset, most notably the antenna reception issue, but did also show that it was an updated device and not the revolution most fans expected. So once again the iPhone plays catchup and re-markets some older features seen in 3G phones for nigh on 5 years (FaceTime anyone *cough*).On another note I wish you guys (TR) would be a little more thorough with your other reviews of handsets, a quick view of the X10 and Desire reviews shows that they only have 4 dedicated pages and yet the iPhone gets the usual 1 million (excuse the hyperbole). I know you have to market yourself and give the people what they want, but remain unbiased... please.I follow your website because it is the best review site, but I slowly am starting to see Kaiser202's point. Apple this, Jobs that... I think I'm growing a little weary (as I'm sure others are too).
Wow, I'm the first to point out a spelling mistake!"over site" - Page 2, I think it was... ;-)I would request a couple of test shots from the camera, maybe even a video too, but with mine being delivered any moment now I'll be finding out for myself soon!
Probably a good phone for people that want a good UI with easily downloaded apps, don't mind being tied into itunes and don't want/need true multi-tasking or the ability to customise the phone etc.I've suggested it to my wife and daughter, but I've also suggested an HTC Desire (or other Android phone) or blackberry / nokia and tell them to form their own opinion rather than just buying it because of the hype.
@Kaiser202 - My thoughts on your comments:Price - You are right, the pricing that Apple have come out with does seem to be very high, as I mentioned on another thread it occoured to me yesterday that it seems crazy that Apple have essentially priced the iPhone and the iPad the same (16gb iPhone £499 - 16GB iPad £429 or £529 for 3g) when the iPad has a much larger screen. Also the Ipod touch 32gb is £239 so it shows you how much of a mark-up Apple are making on the phone! Really it should be between £300 - £350 IMOCamera - Cant say myself as I havent compared the two but TBH cameras in phones are and always will be a bit dodgy, good for point and shoot as opposed to getting excellent shots. Sont had the advantage of working with a proper camera manufacturer I believe to sort out their lenses, but Apple probably didnt want to go that far! The 3GS still had a good camera in comparison to most smartphones IMOEssentially you are correct, Apple realy have mastered how to make things easy to use and pretty, and they really did see that to appeal to the "casual tech" market they had to focus on user interface as opposed to all out power and adjustability and its worked really really well, A lot of my friends have had ipod touches and now they are looking at getting a new phone/smartphone, dont want to switch to android or alternatives, and would rather stick with what they know. Steve was very clever with the touch in that respect.Personally I think the scores are mostly fair, the design is beautiful (assuming they havent seen the yellow screen and reduced signals that others have seen holding their phones) and the new features and processer make it a worth upgrade for the apple faithful. Its just hard to look at the prices of the iPad/iPod touch and the iPhone and accept that its worth spending THAT MUCH more just so you can use it as a phone! I think ill stick with my Nokia mobile running Joikuspot and my iPod Touch for now, please bring out an iPod touch with a camera (with video) and an A4 processor in september Apple!
@KaiserDon't hate Apple, hate everyone else for not being able to make products that are as well thought out. I'm certainly not in the market for a £600 phone, but I disagree that Apple are trying to flog 5 year old technology. In fact, pretty much everything - screen, processor, wireless connectivity, construction materials etc. are state of the art. The camera may be crap compared to a proper camera, but compared to other mobiles it seems fine. The gripe against Apple is always along the lines of "I want Apple quality, fit and finish, attention to detail and thoughtfulness, but WHY CAN'T IT BE £200 CHEAPER?". Because you get what you pay for. The alternatives are cheaper, but they're not as good. That's why people talk about Apple so much, and not HTC or whoever. Techies always like to think they're smarter than the other 'idiots' who are 'brainwashed by clever marketing', that for some unknown reason put stuff like aesthetics and ease of use over minor differences in hardware spec.
I'm not an apple fan and hate there marketing.And i must admit the site is coming across as very apple biased. The phone looks ok, like a small screen to me, And the camera is still way below standards, but the its phone not a camera.But the point about price and a 7/10 is a joke. I can build a pretty solid PC box for that much and have way more power on tap, and with the left over cash buy a cheap phone. It is like most apple products rediculously over priced, and designed to tie you into staying with Apple.
Price..? Come on guys, if it's too expensive then just leave it alone and go buy something cheaper if you feel that way, but is it really bad value for money. I don't think so.1) 16Gb = £500. Significant outlay, but only a few years ago you couldn't even dream of phone like this. 10 years ago Motorola sold the first SmartTag tiny phones for well in excess of £1,000. People who read this site are supposed to be tech-lovers. This is pure tech heaven whether you like apple or not.2) In a year or two you will get £200 back when you sell it, so therefore the cost is only £300. And selling phones now is very, very easy.3) Because you bought it SIM free and Unlocked you can put it on a one year contract with o2 for £20 instead of paying £40 a month for the same thing with an 18 month normal purchase.4) Next year you have flexibility to sell and move on to ip5 or any other phone that takes your fancy.All this sounds very sensible value to me and I would personally have awarded it higher than 7/10.Is it more expensive than an iPad ? Yes. Can an iPad make phone calls ? No. Can an iPad fit in your pocket ? No. Hard to compare the two devices.
@BrianYou can also build a V8 engine to leave in your garage, and have money left over to buy a bicycle. That's not the same as having a V8 motorcycle.
@Kaiser202, @Brian: I believe the IPhone4 is not for you. I'd suggest, @Brian go and build yourself a new PC (won't fit in your pocket of make phone calls) but it will make you feel better as your getting so much value for money.@Kaiser202: Go and buy yourself and little sister a car, again not very good for making phone calls on etc, but it might make you feel like a bargain hunter. Surely you cars are going to get a 10 for value.But for me, buying a second hand car or building a new PC holds NO value to me, they both would give me a value score of 0. On the other hand the IPhone4 if my current 3G is anything to go by is going to get a much higher score than 7. So I'm a little angry now, come on TR I used to trust your reviews, you've let me down how come you never give it 11.
@ Brian. Sigh, where to start ... where to start? No, far too easy .. *makes a hasty exit*
@Keith. Well said.I too am upgrading from a 3G to an iPhone 4 btw, so I'm hoping that the difference in speed is very noticeable. My only criticism of the present phone is the lag between switching apps and the slow down as it checks mail in the background. If the new one simply made it much faster and didn't add anything new at all I'd still be pretty pleased.Next year though I really do hope they increase the size of screen a little to fill out the unit better and reduce the boarders.
@MattOne of the reasons I don't think that there's much to complain about is that for the first time Apple actually are offering cutting edge tech for the price. Up till now people have been paying well over the odds for old, underspecced tech. People can go on about UI and UX as much as they want but in my opinion the price didn't justify what you were getting. I still think it's too expensive but at least you're not being fobbed off with second rate internals now.You were definitely not getting what you paid for up till now.
Value for money is a FREE HTC Desire with a £25 18 month contract: 300 mins, 300 texts, unlimited internet. Plus you can sell it at the end as well. I refuse to pay Apple prices on principle but if this new phone was a flawless product, without the iTunes baggage, I'd have to think hard. It simply isn't though.
I'm really torn. I love(d) my iphone 3g and hate to admit that I do feel a little tied to apple since all my music is already organised in iTunes and I have invested quite a bit of cash on apps that I wouldn't want to lose. Therefore, getting the iphone 4 seems logical. However, as popinted out elsewhere I could get a nexus one or desire for free on a £30 18 month contract. Over the life of the contract that is quite a big difference.Don't get me wrong, I think the new iphone is ace.
@Keith - why would a second hand car or self built PC have no value to you?! Anyway, its a lovely phone with some nice tech. Is it pricey? Debatable and dependent on personal circumstances - why cant some understand that?! When I got my "pricey" at the time 3gs I had recently crushed the screen of my iPod and was looking for a new mp3 player - back then the 3GS seemed almost in bargain territory. Now, if I was looking to upgrade Im not so sure. I primarily need more storage space so considering that isnt possible with the iPhone 4 I cannot justify the cost for me to break my contract and upgrade to the new model. Simply put, it's too expensive for, in my circumstances, very little improvements.If we were talking a 64gb+ model then I'd be tempted... Cutting to the chase - I'd rather wait for the 5th gens arrival.
Has the reviewer actually tried using the phone for more than a few minutes? Don't get me wrong - I have bought one and I like it a lot, but some of the points in the review is ridiculous. You've given it 9/10 when you can't make calls if you hold the phone in left your hand - WTF?! Unless they fix the massive cell reception problem and change the price it can't be any higher than a 7 surely? I can get it to drop an in-progress call just by switching hands, on cue, or put it into "No service" by holding it my left hand while playing a game with my right (a fairly common thing to do with an iPhone!). Yet you haven't even *mentioned* this problem in the review at all despite the fact that it's widely publicised and all other reviews I've read have mentioned it. Not exactly thoroughly tested then and not what I would expect from a site called "Trusted Reviews".
I hate to say it, but the Desire's probably going to be this generation's N95. Everyone will have one in 6 months and the resale value will be terrible. Not that it detracts from the value for money that the Desire currently represents, mind. It's a nice handset.I was conflicted on the iP4 until Three's deals came out. There's a price threshold at which something so nicely machined becomes eminently desirable.
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