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Apple strikes again! No HDMI... for shame - and of course all the proprietary things that you can only buy from Apple are ever-present..
Couple of points -
HDMI is possible with a minidisplay port to HDMI cable;
the peripherals are the default choice when ordering, but a trackpad and a large USB keyboard are both available;
it can be used as an extra monitor via Thunderbolt;
TV tuners are available for the mac (and will work with this);
no retina complaint is silly - the resolution would need to be over 5000 pixels (?) and would you be able to tell the difference at a normal seated distance vs a phone or ipad which is usually a lot closer to the user (ditto macbook);
one comment is that 'you could buy a really stellar PC for less' is misleading when later in the review a Dell (admittedly with a touchscreen) is stated as coming out that is the same price and a similar spec.
To intimate that performance is lacking, but then show performance across the board being excellent is misleading. Ditto 'you do pay for upgrades though'.. yes, you do. And? AND in the Verdict you state that 'it has enough grunt for most users'.
So why go so hard on the iMac? (And no, im not a fanboy, just think this review is poor)
- "...connecting up a telly or extra monitor requires an extra adapter"
- I did actually mean to make that point. Will amend.
- Apologies, you are correct here, though the solution is a little clunky given there are no controls to switch inputs or display style. I'll take a second look at this to see exactly what devices do work in this way and amend accordingly.
- The TV Tuner was an example. I could have said Sky box or Virgin Media box or Tivo or... The point was about the lack of connectivity, not accessories.
- Retina iPad's silly, Retina Macbook's silly... I don't know how you use your PC but generally I find a laptop and desktop monitor are about equidistant from me when sat at a desk.
- Perhaps I should have been more specific, though I thought the point reasonably clear. I meant a PC in the broadest sense - i.e. a normal desktop with seperate monitor.
- When do I intimate performance is lacking? I say power users and hardcore gamers will find fault because, for all this machine's power, it still can't rival a Macpro or a full size desktop PC.
- Clearly you missed the intended emphasis of the upgrades line. It was meant to emphasise that the upgrades are expensive.
- I gave it 8/10, that's not going hard. Moreover, it's a £2000 machine (in the configuration we reviewed) so I'd damn well expect us to be exacting in our critique.
Its poor value for money & not having an optical drive has made my decision not to upgrade my 3 year old 27" iMac a good decision. The screen rez is the same as mine!
I'm also at a loss for retina complaint, I use a retina iPad for all my browsing (typing on it now) but text and everything looks great on my 2012 27" iMac. I'd say my iMac is about a couple of feet away from me but really a screen this large who can comfortable sit much closer and not wear your eyes out scanning around the screen I've used the Retina MBP and it sure is pretty but you sit much closer to your laptop screen (or I do). FW is a bummer but as a commenter has said £25 adaptor gets you going and everything daisy chains as it did before (4 FW800 drives and a FW400 capture deck at the end here) also if your considering this for Prem Pro CS6 I can confirm the CUDA video card hack works a treat and with 32gb RAM on board it flies.
I'd also noticed your 21" review complain of backlighting issues, I must have got lucky because mine is just fine but that's often the LCD lottery and have been stung before exchanging multiple 24" alu cinema displays until I got one that was acceptable several years back
Still nice to see a review calling out a few issues as most reviews I've read seem to heap blind praise on it, although to my mind a few were VERY nitpicky ha ha
These all-in-ones are a bit of a con really, whether made by apple or anyone else. My opinion, obviously. You're paying a premium for laptop hardware in a desktop pc, just for the sake of having everything neatly tidied away in a single box. Miniaturisation and ultra-portability are always costly propositions, but in the desktop use-case, these are surely misplaced goals. Do people really struggle to find room for a small tower in their home offices?
Personally, I could never bring myself to spend so much money on lesser hardware. I suppose if i lived in a bedsit and i had no space, compactness would be important to me. But then, I probably wouldn't be able to afford an iMac ;) And I'm a creative professional, so design is important to me, but it should never come at the cost of practicality, and it should never come at such a cost. Good design should be available to all, regardless of budget. It doesn't need to cost the earth.
I'd like to see performance figures for 2k's worth of conventional desktop included in these reviews. Indeed, 1k's worth as well, just so people get an idea of how much extra they're paying for the performance they're getting. Dell do some relatively compact desktop solutions, so i'm not especially talking about hardcore gaming rigs with big towers, though again, their inclusion for comparative purposes would be useful.
Are you sure that your review machine didn't have a 1TB Fusion Drive? All the other 27" review machines had that specification (3.4GHz/1TB Fusion/8GB/680MX).
P.S. I totally agree with you about the display. I was a little disappointed to see it hadn't moved on from the previous generation. However, I don't think Retina was really an option, 5120 x 2880? What would that have costed? Besides the PPI is 108, which is better than a lot of monitors you view from 18" away.
I am a converted PC guy (which seems to have an "abuse me" tag that goes with it). Macs are easy to use. I like their programs, they make pro style movies and are easy to use. You don't have to update the OS all the time. The all in one package looks great and works great. For me, it's a simpler and less complicated computer. I'm a teacher and this has everything I want and need. I'm not too concerned with the proprietary adapters and such; it isn't a deal killer. Why hate something because Steve Jobs was an ass and Apple genius' aren't really genius'. Do your research, buy what works for you, and be happy.
They make it thinner just like television market is doing to their product even thought we don't really need televisions this slim.
I do find it funny that the lack of retina display is an 'issue'.
"design is important to me, but it should never come at the cost of practicality, and it should never come at such a cost."
No one is forcing you to purchase an iMac.
What would an acceptable cost be? Who gets to decide that?
I have a new super 5mm thin iMac and love it. We use it our second new HD video editing suite and have had no problems what so ever. It was 1/3 the cost of a Mac Pro and has faster connections for Hard Drives and other needed external equipment We are going to order another new iMac for our third editing bay we are building at A.F. productions/ AFP-HD here in Tyler, Texas. Apple does great on hardware but not so good on software. Keep up the great work Apple on your hardware. You need a little work on the software and a better understanding what professionals need in software.
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