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For testing we've dropped comparisons to any dual core CPUs as we've already seen how these compare. Instead we've pitted the 9850 against Intel's nearest price competitor the Q6600 (which is well known to overclock to 3GHz and above) and the fastest consumer quad-core CPU currently available, the QX9770. Now you could argue that comparing the QX9770, which costs nearly £600, to the 9850 is a bit unfair but, remember, the 9850 is currently AMD's best so it's only fair to compare it to Intel's best.
As always we tried to create as even a playing field as possible so the only limiting factor for each setup is the CPU itself. Both test systems used western Digital Raptor 150GB hard drives and nVidia 8800 GTS 640 graphics cards. However, we used DDR2 memory with the AMD CPUs, while the Intel chips were accompanied by DDR3 and of course the two motherboards for each platform were also different.
* nVidia 8800 GTS 640MB
* 150GB Western Digital Raptor
* Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit
Intel Specific Components:
* 2GB Corsair TWIN3X2048-1333C9 DDR3
* Asus P5E3
AMD Specific Components:
* 2GB Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5DF DDR2
* MSI K9A2 Platinum
Testing started with our usual quartet of Photoshop batch processing, VirtualDub video encoding, WinRAR file compression, and LAME mp3 encoding and we also ran the single core test in Cinebench. These tests are all single-threaded versions of the programs so they are only using one core at a time, which gives a good idea of raw clock-for clock performance of the CPUs.
Next we tested the multithreaded versions of WinRAR and LAME and also ran the multi-core test in Cinebench to see how effectively the CPUs distribute the computing load across multiple cores. Finally, we did a spot of game testing using Counter-Strike: Source, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and Crysis. Each test was repeated until a consistent score was achieved so the results we're showing are truly representative of the performance our test beds gave under our tests.
Once the first round of testing was over we set about overclocking the 9850 to see how much head room that unlocked multiplier really gives you.
We started by upping the multiplier and very quickly found we could get to 15x, which gave us an overall clock speed of 3.0GHz with no extra voltage whatsoever - not a bad start! Next we tried upping the HTT with this multiplier setting and very rapidly got nowhere, regardless of how much we pushed the voltages up. So, we started scaling back the multiplier and simultaneously trying to up the HTT until we finally had some success with the default 12.5x multiplier and 210MHz HTT, which was still a long way from our initial successes. So for our testing we settled on the 15x multiplier with everything else kept the same. Still, this is a massive improvement on the overclocking results we got with the first batch of Phenoms.
There is, unfortunately, one downside to all this. Reading around it appears reaching such lofty heights with quite such ease is not a common occurance and, although 3GHz is achievable you'll have to bump up the voltages to get there. Without experimenting with overvolting, 2.8GHz is a more likely achievement. We'd certainly be interested to hear what results you get, though.
* AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition @ 2.5GHz (12.5 x 200MHz)
* AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition @ 3.0GHz (15 x 200MHz)
* AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition @ 2.3GHz (11.5 x 200MHz)
* AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition @ 2.5GHz (12.5 x 200MHz)
* Intel Core 2 Quad QX9770 @ 3.2GHz (8 x 400MHz)
* Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz (9 x 266MHz)
Looking at the results, then, what's clear right from the off is that the 9850 is a solid 10 percent faster than the 9600 when the TLB fix is disabled. Once the fix is enabled on the 9600 its performance drops by an average of another 10 percent right across the board - the appalling WinRAR results not withstanding. More to the point, though, is that on performance the 9850 is pretty close to its biggest rival, the Q6600. It never quite pulls ahead but, apart from Cinebench, it's consistently within spitting distance.
All in all, then, it's a close one to call and really it comes down to how successful you are when overclocking - that and personal allegiances. Although we're aware the Q6600 is a consistent overclocker, the 9850 is multipler unlocked so there's potential for significantly more headroom, if you're persistent, or just lucky.
The AMD Phenom X4 9x50 series doesn't significantly improve performance over the older 9x00 series, at any given clock speed. However, the TLB erratum has been removed and the new CPUs - especially the multiplier unlocked 9850 - seem to overclock more freely than the old chips. All of which combines to make the 9850, in particular, a worthy adversary to the Q6600. In fact, we'd say it's close enough that deciding between an Intel quad-core and an AMD quad-core is largely down to personal preference at this price point.