But John, please don't insult the Pioneer Kuro TVs by comparing them to a Panasonic!!
Pioneer made their TV with a passion that Panasonic cannot hope to copy.
Pioneer made their best TV in 2 sizes with 2 models each (with a media box and without). That's it. The same panel used in all models - their best effort - nothing less.
Companies like Panasonic make several models - cheap ones and expensive ones. Not all of these are their best effort, are they? In fact, some have been delibrately crippled to justify their place at that price point.
Yes, I do own a Pioneer Kuro. And no, I will not be buying this Panasonic.
So you are admitting that you are willing to pay 3x times the price for the sake of knowing that nuts and bolts in your panel were screwed on by hand (apart from the fact that they weren't)? Man, you are the perfect marketing target.
I own 2 of Panny's excellent Viera plasmas, and i wish that their remotes were less plasticky and generally made better, but i'm not paying 2 grand to get a better remote.
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the kuro may have the best image quality at the moment, but since they're apparently pulling out that tech won't be the greatest anymore, after a time. it's like how my littl vauxhall corsa could outrun an aston martin db5. i wouldn't be suprised if panny's top of the line tv walks away with an editors choice.
@Prem - If Pioneer were so passionate about the construction of their TVs, why did they decide to offload panel manufacture to Panasonic?
The fact is that Panasonic’s plasma manufacturing facility is amazing, and Pioneer couldn’t hope to make that kind of investment itself. I have been to the Panasonic plasma factories and I can tell you first hand that there is no one more capable of manufacturing top quality plasma panels, which is why Pioneer struck the production deal up with Panasonic in the first place.
I don’t think that John is at all misguided in comparing this panel to a Kuro, since any new development should be compared to the best in the market. It also doesn’t surprise me that Panasonic is making such huge leaps forward with its black level response, since I would be amazed if the co-op deal with Pioneer didn’t include some amount of technology sharing.
Yes I do own a second gen Pioneer Kuro. Yes I do love it. But it’s a sad fact that Pioneer will not be manufacturing TVs for much longer, and therefore other manufacturers will eventually surpass the image quality of my TV. That is, quite simply, inevitable.
"Yeah, yeah, I know: yet another bloody Panasonic TV. But actually, I'm not in the least bit apologetic"
Nor should you apolgise, I'd bet most people reading these reviews would give their right arm to be doing your job! :-) Shame you can't do an annual TR raffle to give all these away.
Could you kindly consider modifying the features table. The text of the article suggests that there are both HD and SD Freesat Tuners (or at least one that is capable of both) and a Freeview tuner, but the features table doesnt expand Freesat beyond saying that there is one. It would be helpful for quick comparisons if this was clearer in the table and given the future plans for HD Freeview, would also help when this comes about.
When do you expect to review the Z1, V10 or G15 series as I'm very interested in those as they hopefully come with Viera Cast technology for some internet sites vid streaming.
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