looks like i will be placing an order for one of these tomorrow.. for delivery next week.. i want a plasma and can only fit 42" in my setup.. so it ticks all the boxes.. it doesnt have 3d but i think its about the only drawback.. i dont think 3d will have enough content to justify a tv for a couple of years, at which point i'll probably want to buy a new tv again anyway.. just like to say - the review is good, but a little light on detail compared to some other reviews i have seen of the tv.. most suggest to leave off the intelligent frame creation as it leaves everything look like video.. and introduces unwanted artifects on hd material
My question to you is - is the pansonic a major upgrade in terms of picture quality over the Sony? I had the Sony ISF calibrated so its pretty good, but i feel the black level could be a lot better.
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@Michael McG: while I haven't seen either TV in person, a move to a V20 brings with it two main benefits on paper. 1) It's plasma, so blacks will be much richer than your current LCD TV, and 2) it's plasma, so it should handle motion better.
Beyond that, I can't really comment myself with any degree of authority.
@Michael: "...i feel the black level could be a lot better"
I know how you feel, that's generally my response to most LCD sets, including my Samsung Series 6 which is a similar vintage. I think it's safe to assume that any high-end plasma will be far superior to your current set in this regard.
My problem is that I have yet another TV to choose from.
I want a TV to go upstairs in the Snug. It will probably be used a couple of times a week and run a mixture of Freeview HD (I live 3 miles from Crystal Palace), video from the PC, iPlayer and DVD's.
I'm just not sure whether I should put something cheap up there, or go for the G20 or now this. I prefer plasma to LCD though and have a habit of err'ing towards the high end stuff :)
Too much choice is not always a good thing - lol...
Nice review although I have to say I am slightly disappointed that this screen did not fair better (design and sound.....come on Panasonic). I guess 9 out of 10 is still a good score....but should we have expected better? This has left me with a couple of questions:
1) Do you know if you will be reviewing the bigger brother of this set....namely the TX-P50V20B? Or should I just refer to the 3D version TX-P50VT20B as the differences with standard 2D version will be insignificant?
2) Concentrating on purely image quality, is this set on par or dare I say it better than the final 9th generation Pioneer displays? If not....can Panasonic ever achieve such a goal?
3) Do you think plasma technology has reached its pinnacle or can Panasonic, etc do any more with this technology to keep it ahead of the upcoming LCD / OMLED technology screen advancements?
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@Al: this model (indeed, most Panasonic's these days) has built-in Freeview HD and Freesat HD. Since you have a dish, please refer to the Freesat HD site for details: http://www.freesat.co.uk/index.php?page=hd.Main
Again no word on the flickering that many of us (I'm one of them) see in brighter areas of a plasma TV image.
On a Swedish site selling televisions I found this for the Panasonic G20 plasmas:
”600 HZ is misleading – I know they say it has that on paper, but that is NOT the update frequency that is 600 Hz but the Sub Field frequency. Two totally different things (12 layers of Sub Fields that are show behind each pixel in standard frequency (50 Hz)). They've just multiplied the two and say it's 600 HZ!!! But again, it is NOT the update frequency that is 600 Hz, it's still 50 Hz.”
(translated from Swedish)
http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010445526.aspx
50 Hz is the same update frequency many of the old CRT TVs had!
Some of the later CRT TVs had 100 Hz update frequency – why can't the plasmas of today also have that? Is it a technology limitation for plasmas or what's the reason behind just using 50 Hz?
I love the look of this. I think the grey looks understated and classy. I'd happily have this hanging on my living room wall!
@ star-affinity - I'm quite surprised to hear what you're saying. I always thought I was very sensitive to image flicker, but apparently I'm obviously not that bad! Back in Uni all the CRT monitors were left at the 60Hz Windows XP default and locked down by IT. I seemed to be the only one constantly bothered by this and would get headaches. At home I had my Mitsubishi DiamondPro screen set to 85Hz. I could still see flicker at 75Hz.
With my 20" Dell IPS TFT monitor I see flicker/strobing on a completely grey screen (not white, just grey). I rarely spend time looking at grey screens though so it doesn't bother me too much, just on very few website backgrounds.
My Panasonic Panasonic TH42PX80 plasma though I've never had a problems witht. Maybe slightly on a completely white static image but I only see them when channels end their programming. My old Sony Trinitorn (50Hz) I hated for its unstable image because of flicker. Do you connect your PC to your TV by any chance?
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