If you're a devoted film lover on a tight budget, the P37X10's stunning black level response is arguably enough in itself to make it irresistible value for money. Certainly it can help many film scenes look more natural and engaging than I've seen them look on any similarly affordable LCD TV.
However, the P37X10's lack of brightness and standard definition colour inconsistencies make it a slightly more considered purchase if you're after a more general purpose living room all-rounder.Read full review
Dear Trusted review, please answer the above question, is the new model which you rate comparatively poorly better than the old model? I'm so frustrated as this is the only question noone seems to answer!
Like the 2 postings above I am confused about the quality of the new model Panasonic Viera TX-P37X10: Is the old 37PX80 a better TV, given that last year it received a higher score than the 37X10? or would the old 37PX80 have to be demoted from 9/10 last year e.g. to 7/10 nowadays in view of its older technology? Or is it still absolutely better than its successor 37X10? (in spite of lower contrast 1:15.000 instead of 1:20.000, Vreal3 instead of VReal4 etc.) as Toby Jugg said in his posting on the 42X10 on 29th April 2009 ("I have just got one of these after a 42px80b so can compare the two directly. My Girlfriend has a 37px8ba. The x10 appears to be a small downward step for anyone who is mainly viewing SD" - like myself- as "the brightness appears to have suffered" further in spite of this being Pana's main weakness)
Could you kindly enlighten us on this as I have to buy a new TV within the next 3 days!
Still no reply from my first comment.Too busy or too "don't want to get involved"
It would be nice to get a professional reply to this question as I see on other forums it is also a concern of many other lay persons such as my self ! Do tell us the difference between the 37PX80 and the 37x10.In your opinion of course...(you do get paid to make one)..All the best Greg.
Or just didn't notice. We may be paid to write opinions but not to endlessly browse all our old reviews for new comments. I'll get onto John to see if he has some further thoughts.
i would like to know your answer to this question as im undesided as to which panasonic tv to buy aswell. i know i want a 37inch screen.its mainly to watch sport and conect my ps2 and play motor racing games
I own both models (37px80 and 37x10). I know my stuff and work as a professional with displays, colors etc.
Last week I tested them both, side by side with the same sources to get the most accurate comparison. Because I too was a little suprised to see the lower marks for the newer model 37x10.
The bottom line so far :
37x10 is a bit better in displaying contour lines around subjects, has better (deeper) blacks). Brightness is more or less the same compared to the 37px80 ( eco mode off ).
The 37x10 is by no means worse than it's predecessor 37px80. It's even slightly better!
The 37x10 got "only" an 8 for picture quality. The 37px80 a year ago an 9.
I think this is correct,if we look at the changing times : blue ray and a the over-hyped demand for a lott of resolution. Last year, the 37px80 was the best choice due to "worser" other models. The 9 for picture quality is correct.
This year there are enough high quality displays which have beter pixel-per-pixel resolution ( full hd). And if someone want high resolution, the 37x10 will not be totally satisfying. So if you have to decide = honestly = what to give for picture qualitiy, I would give the 37x10 a 9 for sd ( broadcating / dvd ) and an 8 for blu-ray because blu-ray will reveal more detail at a full hd plasma. So....
For the normal crowd - broadcasting & dvd's - the 37x10 is a perfect machine which will give you deep blacks, no noise, no backlight bleeding, good motion and good contrast and will be satisfying you till the Amoled tv's are mature and affordable.
I will post my side-by-side review later and will explain the differences technically.
Hopefully it will clear up some things for some people.
If anyone is interested..some figures between the x10 en px80 :
First.
There is indeed a difference in brightness when using test patterns.
White (relative)
px80 = 100
x10 = 75
Grey (relative)
px80 = 100
x10 = 70
Indeed the px80 seems brighter and it really is...Only at test patterns and large white areas.
Now this is a bummer. Or not ?
In my previous post I stated that I saw almost none difference in picture quality side by side.
The second measurements whre done on real life pictures, dvd and sd-broadcasting.
Of course, this is a whole other matter while the "translation" of the movie is very - very- important. For example : grey. Is the translation lighter or darker.
To be short, I measured a lot : faces, white areas (clouds, etc), grey jackets etc.etc.
Conclusion : no difference in light-output...same figures, same picture. And that's a rather strange conclusion, regarding the lower light output of the 3710 on the test patterns.
It looks like that the 37x10 has limited it's power supply when displaying large white areas. If that's a good thing, I don't know, but explaining the lower power needs. In real life picture it ios not a big thing. Only advertisements have often large white areas.
Last note :
The colors seemed to improve over time. I know find the colors of the 37x10 better than the px80. Also contrast and blacks are a little better. Out of the box ( first days ) it is not so good, and I reaaly hope reviewers have judged this display after a good amount of hours playing.
Conclusion so far : both tv's are ok and almost identical in displaying real life pictures.
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