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davedoubledecks

8:13 AM on 13 July, 2009

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Why not just spend £15 more and buy something like the Canon Ixus 100? (with 720p video, 3X optical zoom with IS, and it does 12mp still images!)

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Dan

11:19 AM on 13 July, 2009

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I disagree that the flips will be squeezed out of the market with video capture functionality of mobiles.

Having seen my 9 year old nephew been given one of the original flips for christmas, it fostered a creative streak previously unseen in him, and now he's making some pretty cool stuff.

I might be wrong, but I don't think having video on your mobile would inspire the same passion and results? And therefore probably different market.

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James Morris

1:30 PM on 13 July, 2009

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@dave_doubledecks Does the Canon Ixus 100 upload straight to YouTube using built-in software and an integrated USB 2 port? Also, how good is the Canon in low light? I've not come across a single consumer camera which is anything short of pants at shooting video in low light.

@Dan I take your point about kids. There is definitely a market there which is distinct from mobile phones. However, having just got an iPhone 3GS myself, the joys of taking embarrassing video of family members and sticking it up on YouTube there and then has considerable attraction. Having to plug the Flip into a computer to do the same seems rather fussy in comparison.

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Wayne Harris

3:19 PM on 13 July, 2009

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Hi James - how is the audio when recording a live band at a rock concert?

i have a Nokia N95 8GB which still today does a pretty good job at recording video and audio, i want to get something with better picture quality and audio to record my bands gigs to use to make interesting promo videos for our website

www.bongiovi.co.uk

www.wayneharris.co.uk

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Andy0d2

5:33 PM on 13 July, 2009

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the iphone 3gs is not a camera phone by any means after comparing my friends 3gs to my N97

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James Morris

6:55 PM on 13 July, 2009

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@Wayne Harris The audio is okay, but a very loud concert will not be reproduced very well. The auto level adjustment will not be able to compensate for the volume properly.

@Andrew Violet Sure, the iPhone 3GS is not a particularly great camera phone. However, its video quality is on par with the original Flip Ultra, and reasonably decent in low light. With the N97, can you record some video, then simply hit a button, enter your login, and send it straight up to YouTube?

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farki80

7:40 PM on 13 July, 2009

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iPhone is no where near the video capabilities of most Nokia N-series.

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Tony Walker

7:58 PM on 13 July, 2009

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@wayne Harris

The Panasonic TZ7 camera is excellent at recording in those environments. There's some fine examples in the forums over at Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com) and I have confirmed it with clips of my own.

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James Morris

10:24 PM on 13 July, 2009

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@farki80 Don't want to get into phone wars here, as it's a matter of taste. But a lot of people reckon the iPhone is miles easier to use than any Nokia N series!

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sddubai

1:06 PM on 27 September, 2009

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Hi,

While talking of pocket camcorders I wonder why every site, every review speaks only of the Flips & Kodaks, while safely avoiding the Toshiba Camileos. I guess the Flips are damn good, but being not available (generally) outside the US, we mortals need to do with the other models.

I bought my Camileo S10 few days back, did some heavy duty shooting around and let me assert here that this is a preety good camcorder, as well.

I took a whole day, visiting various retailers, testing the Sony Webbie, Kodak Zx1, Aiptek z700, Xacti CG10 and the Camileo P30 & S10, besides the Samsung ST550 {TL225 elsewhere} (a Digital Camera doing 720p HD). These were the compact camcorders available here (Flip Ultra HD, Samsung U10 & Kodak Zi8 are not yet marketed here) and settled down for the Camileo S10 due to:

1. Great form factor.

2. Lightest among all.

3. *Best HD clips (2nd was Aiptek z700).

4. *2nd best Still shots (best was Aiptek z700), but very-very good.

5. **Li-ion Battery (keeps the device slimmer).

6. ***Upto 32 Gb SD Card compatible.

7. Got an 8 Gb SD card free from the store.

8. Similar priced; under USD 160/- {the CG10 is a bit costlier (and the P30 is no better, but bigger)}.

9. HDMI port (a must, so that we enjoy Full HD footage on an FHD TV).

10. ****Deal breaker: Slips easily into my shirt pocket, with ZERO bulge.

*Both clips & shots analyzed by playing on a 42" FHD LCD TV. {remember, it shoots just one step lower than 1080p, which is as good as 1080p, an ordinary guy like me would'nt notice the difference at all}.

**Bought another Li-ion battery for Stand-by (these are the same as used in most of the cameras & camcorders; thus, readily available - not proprietary; costed only USD 8/-).

***Note: standard SD card, NOT Micro SD; thus, cheaper.

****The S10 is a Flat device, half the thickness of my cigarette pack (B&H 20's) and only half inch taller than it.

EDITING & BURNING DVD:

I edited the clips & burnt a (regular) DVD - and wow! the movie was stunning. To note here, the supplied ArcSoft Suite is "just OK", but I had no problem making my DVD thru the Cyberlink PowerDirector Express, which is a good movie software and came with my JVC HD7.

MY VERDICT:

Friends, don't have any 2nd thoughts. If the 10 pointers I mentioned above are also your considering factors, go for the Camileo S10.

It is better than the rest. AND be assured, the vids are VERY SIMILAR to that of a Hi-End HD Camcorder (I have one), if you can overcome the top-notch movies you get from them due to their manual controls. But then, we are talking about a "Pocket Camcorder", whose basic purpose is to carry everywhere and shoot at the spur of the moment and under 1/10th of the price the Camileo S10 is a steal.

I am deeply satisfied with my Camileo; and so would be you!!!

Regards.

{Ps.: The Samsung ST 550 (TL225) is a too good digital camera though, but is double the price. It's Stills are mind blowing, but the Video is lagging behind Camileo S10. I was about to purchase it until I fully tested the Camileo S10}.

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alexmackay

12:11 AM on 19 December, 2009

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although other cameras might out perform the flip ultra hd,its the instant share function thats just so on the button,and im quite sure as im no steven spielberg itll do enough for what id want a camera such as this to do.seems like a no brainer to me,ill probably buy this very soon.

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The UltraHD continues Flip's tradition of decent video in a wide range of conditions with zero effort, easy online uploading, and compact size. However, the existence of pocket Internet camcorders as standalone devices is increasingly under threat from high-end camera phones like the iPhone 3G S and Cupcake-equipped Android mobiles. So, for now, the Flip UltraHD offers better image quality, justifying its reasonable £160 price. But the writing is clearly on the wall.

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Reviewed by James Morris

13 July 2009

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