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Greg17b

10:53 PM on 24 June, 2010

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The other benefit is that whilst they're still out of stock, if you have one like me you can sell it for £400 profit and move on...

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Sleeper

10:55 PM on 24 June, 2010

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Great review. After some initial grumbles I always look to TR for the definitive verdict. Also, I realise that £499 is a lot for a 16GB phone but I'm pretty sure that I'll get a good bit of that back if I sell it on when - and that's the great part now rather than 2008, it is a when, not an if - a better handset comes out.

Think I'm sold on this. Time to join the herd.

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Lord Comben III

10:56 PM on 24 June, 2010

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Nice review, balanced on the good points but remembering the bad :)

Seems like a good enough phone but I'm happy with my Desire for the next 16 months.

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rav

11:00 PM on 24 June, 2010

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A good, fair review Ed!

I don't think it's the best phone around but it's no doubt a very good phone.

I do think that iOS4 is the big deal here and the fact that it works great on the 3GS kind of lessens the impact of the 4 for me. Apple have maybe kicked themselves in the foot by giving the 3GS all the (important) features although good for them for not just thinking about their bottom line (for once!).

iOS has hit a point where it now has most of the features that a smartphone should have and implements them very nicely. There's only minor nitpicks missing which are by no means deal breakers.

I'm looking forward to getting the new iPod touch when they release it. Probably around September.

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GoldenGuy

3:13 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@ravmania

I second the great anticipation for the Touch. Since we're doing minor nitpicks : for all the fuss they made about multitasking, you'd think they'd have bothered to turn the icons the right way round for landscape view. It'd be really annoying shuffling through eight or so apps, and having to tilt your head round to read the less intuitive icons.

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Kaiser202

4:45 AM on 25 June, 2010

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Ok I actually want someone to explain something to me!

I have an iPhone 3g. Its an alright phone, mostly I keep it for the games and the ease of texting with a keypad but I don't love it as much as a lot of people.

This new iPhone looks pretty enough, and I know everyone liked a higher resolution display and better camera and whatever. But my issues are thus. 1) A small issue really, but why do you give it 7/10 for value when for that price I could buy myself and my little sister each a CAR! Granted it wouldn't be a Mercedes but I could get a nice oldish but workable machine to learn how to drive on (she just turned 17). The point is £600 is a TON of money, a lot more than everyone in the UK except the wealthy or stupid can afford.

Secondly, why is it that when high tech Earphones, TVs and Cameras come in the TR shop, they get shooed away because if you listen close, adjust the brightness or zoom in 600x magnification you can see a little bit of noise if you're looking for it, but the iPhone camera gets an A-OK from the team when anyone with a brain can see that its CRAP! I had a better camera on my cheap ass K800i when I got my contract on O2 in 2007! This is a joke and I throw shame on all of you so called reviewers for putting aside your normal and healthy doubt and scepticism whenever you see something shiny shiny that Apple has made.

This is the problem with the world of technology as I see it. Apple, in a genius scheme, has branded itself remarkably well, so now that you're hooked they feel that they can sell you 5 year old tech for more than the current higher tech competition. Buy any laptop over an iPad and it will do everything the iPad can do and more for half the price, but it isn't shiny shiny apple and you cant "flick" the menus. The fact that you think a £600 phone is 7/10 for value (by the way at degree level 70% is a first, the highest honour you can get!) just shocks me to my very core.

I don't think I can trust TrustedReviews anymore, even though you steered me right in getting my nice 24" BenQ monitor, and my Logitech Wave keyboard and my G500 mouse and my Creative T80 speakers...

Because... Apple just owns your soul, and they barely even hinted that they wanted it...

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Ironduke

7:56 AM on 25 June, 2010

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The Lord of all Phones!

who now can beat this?

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McPlopp

8:34 AM on 25 June, 2010

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Picked one up yesterday. It's simply the best phone I've ever owned. It would take something monumental to move me away from iPhone to another platform, such as Android. As has always been the case, the real trump card of the iPhone isn't in the techie details, it's the beautifully simple and elegant interface that is so easy to use.

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Greg Shewan

8:55 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@Kaiser202 - I have to say I agree about the price, especially here in South Africa where the 3GS was retailing at almost £800 at release (sim free of course), which is just plain insanity. I can't imagine what the 4 will demand.

I also have to agree/and disagree with you on the review. I think that it was a review that did highlight some of the flaws of the handset, most notably the antenna reception issue, but did also show that it was an updated device and not the revolution most fans expected. So once again the iPhone plays catchup and re-markets some older features seen in 3G phones for nigh on 5 years (FaceTime anyone *cough*).

On another note I wish you guys (TR) would be a little more thorough with your other reviews of handsets, a quick view of the X10 and Desire reviews shows that they only have 4 dedicated pages and yet the iPhone gets the usual 1 million (excuse the hyperbole). I know you have to market yourself and give the people what they want, but remain unbiased... please.

I follow your website because it is the best review site, but I slowly am starting to see

Kaiser202's point. Apple this, Jobs that... I think I'm growing a little weary (as I'm sure others are too).

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Cub

9:22 AM on 25 June, 2010

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Wow, I'm the first to point out a spelling mistake!

"over site" - Page 2, I think it was... ;-)

I would request a couple of test shots from the camera, maybe even a video too, but with mine being delivered any moment now I'll be finding out for myself soon!

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Kaurisol

9:23 AM on 25 June, 2010

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Probably a good phone for people that want a good UI with easily downloaded apps, don't mind being tied into itunes and don't want/need true multi-tasking or the ability to customise the phone etc.

I've suggested it to my wife and daughter, but I've also suggested an HTC Desire (or other Android phone) or blackberry / nokia and tell them to form their own opinion rather than just buying it because of the hype.

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Stelph

9:30 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@Kaiser202 - My thoughts on your comments:

Price - You are right, the pricing that Apple have come out with does seem to be very high, as I mentioned on another thread it occoured to me yesterday that it seems crazy that Apple have essentially priced the iPhone and the iPad the same (16gb iPhone £499 - 16GB iPad £429 or £529 for 3g) when the iPad has a much larger screen. Also the Ipod touch 32gb is £239 so it shows you how much of a mark-up Apple are making on the phone! Really it should be between £300 - £350 IMO

Camera - Cant say myself as I havent compared the two but TBH cameras in phones are and always will be a bit dodgy, good for point and shoot as opposed to getting excellent shots. Sont had the advantage of working with a proper camera manufacturer I believe to sort out their lenses, but Apple probably didnt want to go that far! The 3GS still had a good camera in comparison to most smartphones IMO

Essentially you are correct, Apple realy have mastered how to make things easy to use and pretty, and they really did see that to appeal to the "casual tech" market they had to focus on user interface as opposed to all out power and adjustability and its worked really really well, A lot of my friends have had ipod touches and now they are looking at getting a new phone/smartphone, dont want to switch to android or alternatives, and would rather stick with what they know. Steve was very clever with the touch in that respect.

Personally I think the scores are mostly fair, the design is beautiful (assuming they havent seen the yellow screen and reduced signals that others have seen holding their phones) and the new features and processer make it a worth upgrade for the apple faithful. Its just hard to look at the prices of the iPad/iPod touch and the iPhone and accept that its worth spending THAT MUCH more just so you can use it as a phone!

I think ill stick with my Nokia mobile running Joikuspot and my iPod Touch for now, please bring out an iPod touch with a camera (with video) and an A4 processor in september Apple!

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Matt

10:15 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@Kaiser

Don't hate Apple, hate everyone else for not being able to make products that are as well thought out. I'm certainly not in the market for a £600 phone, but I disagree that Apple are trying to flog 5 year old technology. In fact, pretty much everything - screen, processor, wireless connectivity, construction materials etc. are state of the art. The camera may be crap compared to a proper camera, but compared to other mobiles it seems fine.

The gripe against Apple is always along the lines of "I want Apple quality, fit and finish, attention to detail and thoughtfulness, but WHY CAN'T IT BE £200 CHEAPER?". Because you get what you pay for. The alternatives are cheaper, but they're not as good. That's why people talk about Apple so much, and not HTC or whoever. Techies always like to think they're smarter than the other 'idiots' who are 'brainwashed by clever marketing', that for some unknown reason put stuff like aesthetics and ease of use over minor differences in hardware spec.

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Brian

10:17 AM on 25 June, 2010

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I'm not an apple fan and hate there marketing.

And i must admit the site is coming across as very apple biased. The phone looks ok, like a small screen to me, And the camera is still way below standards, but the its phone not a camera.

But the point about price and a 7/10 is a joke. I can build a pretty solid PC box for that much and have way more power on tap, and with the left over cash buy a cheap phone. It is like most apple products rediculously over priced, and designed to tie you into staying with Apple.

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AJ

10:25 AM on 25 June, 2010

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Price..? Come on guys, if it's too expensive then just leave it alone and go buy something cheaper if you feel that way, but is it really bad value for money. I don't think so.

1) 16Gb = £500. Significant outlay, but only a few years ago you couldn't even dream of phone like this. 10 years ago Motorola sold the first SmartTag tiny phones for well in excess of £1,000. People who read this site are supposed to be tech-lovers. This is pure tech heaven whether you like apple or not.

2) In a year or two you will get £200 back when you sell it, so therefore the cost is only £300. And selling phones now is very, very easy.

3) Because you bought it SIM free and Unlocked you can put it on a one year contract with o2 for £20 instead of paying £40 a month for the same thing with an 18 month normal purchase.

4) Next year you have flexibility to sell and move on to ip5 or any other phone that takes your fancy.

All this sounds very sensible value to me and I would personally have awarded it higher than 7/10.

Is it more expensive than an iPad ? Yes. Can an iPad make phone calls ? No. Can an iPad fit in your pocket ? No. Hard to compare the two devices.

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Matt

10:25 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@Brian

You can also build a V8 engine to leave in your garage, and have money left over to buy a bicycle. That's not the same as having a V8 motorcycle.

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Keithe6e

10:39 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@Kaiser202, @Brian: I believe the IPhone4 is not for you.

I'd suggest, @Brian go and build yourself a new PC (won't fit in your pocket of make phone calls) but it will make you feel better as your getting so much value for money.

@Kaiser202: Go and buy yourself and little sister a car, again not very good for making phone calls on etc, but it might make you feel like a bargain hunter. Surely you cars are going to get a 10 for value.

But for me, buying a second hand car or building a new PC holds NO value to me, they both would give me a value score of 0. On the other hand the IPhone4 if my current 3G is anything to go by is going to get a much higher score than 7. So I'm a little angry now, come on TR I used to trust your reviews, you've let me down how come you never give it 11.

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Lantic

10:42 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@ Brian. Sigh, where to start ... where to start? No, far too easy .. *makes a hasty exit*

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AJ

10:57 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@Keith. Well said.

I too am upgrading from a 3G to an iPhone 4 btw, so I'm hoping that the difference in speed is very noticeable. My only criticism of the present phone is the lag between switching apps and the slow down as it checks mail in the background. If the new one simply made it much faster and didn't add anything new at all I'd still be pretty pleased.

Next year though I really do hope they increase the size of screen a little to fill out the unit better and reduce the boarders.

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rav

10:58 AM on 25 June, 2010

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@Matt

One of the reasons I don't think that there's much to complain about is that for the first time Apple actually are offering cutting edge tech for the price. Up till now people have been paying well over the odds for old, underspecced tech. People can go on about UI and UX as much as they want but in my opinion the price didn't justify what you were getting. I still think it's too expensive but at least you're not being fobbed off with second rate internals now.

You were definitely not getting what you paid for up till now.

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JohnH

11:45 AM on 25 June, 2010

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Value for money is a FREE HTC Desire with a £25 18 month contract: 300 mins, 300 texts, unlimited internet. Plus you can sell it at the end as well.

I refuse to pay Apple prices on principle but if this new phone was a flawless product, without the iTunes baggage, I'd have to think hard. It simply isn't though.

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KMJB

12:26 PM on 25 June, 2010

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I'm really torn. I love(d) my iphone 3g and hate to admit that I do feel a little tied to apple since all my music is already organised in iTunes and I have invested quite a bit of cash on apps that I wouldn't want to lose. Therefore, getting the iphone 4 seems logical. However, as popinted out elsewhere I could get a nexus one or desire for free on a £30 18 month contract. Over the life of the contract that is quite a big difference.

Don't get me wrong, I think the new iphone is ace.

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Jones

12:56 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@Keith - why would a second hand car or self built PC have no value to you?!

Anyway, its a lovely phone with some nice tech. Is it pricey? Debatable and dependent on personal circumstances - why cant some understand that?!

When I got my "pricey" at the time 3gs I had recently crushed the screen of my iPod and was looking for a new mp3 player - back then the 3GS seemed almost in bargain territory. Now, if I was looking to upgrade Im not so sure. I primarily need more storage space so considering that isnt possible with the iPhone 4 I cannot justify the cost for me to break my contract and upgrade to the new model. Simply put, it's too expensive for, in my circumstances, very little improvements.

If we were talking a 64gb+ model then I'd be tempted... Cutting to the chase - I'd rather wait for the 5th gens arrival.

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Nick Gilbert

1:14 PM on 25 June, 2010

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Has the reviewer actually tried using the phone for more than a few minutes? Don't get me wrong - I have bought one and I like it a lot, but some of the points in the review is ridiculous. You've given it 9/10 when you can't make calls if you hold the phone in left your hand - WTF?! Unless they fix the massive cell reception problem and change the price it can't be any higher than a 7 surely? I can get it to drop an in-progress call just by switching hands, on cue, or put it into "No service" by holding it my left hand while playing a game with my right (a fairly common thing to do with an iPhone!). Yet you haven't even *mentioned* this problem in the review at all despite the fact that it's widely publicised and all other reviews I've read have mentioned it. Not exactly thoroughly tested then and not what I would expect from a site called "Trusted Reviews".

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sockatume

1:43 PM on 25 June, 2010

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I hate to say it, but the Desire's probably going to be this generation's N95. Everyone will have one in 6 months and the resale value will be terrible. Not that it detracts from the value for money that the Desire currently represents, mind. It's a nice handset.

I was conflicted on the iP4 until Three's deals came out. There's a price threshold at which something so nicely machined becomes eminently desirable.

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DC

1:56 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@ravmania

your still not getting what you paid for. Your paying for a phone which can't even make a phone call when you hold it!

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Keithe6e

2:15 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@Nick Gilbert: Yet you haven't even *mentioned* this problem in the review at all

Yep, not one single mention.

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However, there does appear to be one major over site in Apple's master plan: hold the phone in the right way (with your hand spanning the gaps as seen below) and the aerial completely shorts out and drops the call. Apple is reporting that it's actually just a problem with the signal strength detection and should be an easy fix, but it's still quite alarming. </quote>

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Kaiser202

4:08 PM on 25 June, 2010

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I've read responses to what I've said but lets be clear here. Apple are making HUGE profit margins. Industry analysts said about the iPad that the cheapest ones cost Apple just over $200 to make, and adding 3G connectivity would cost in the region of $35. However, Apple price the entry level iPad at £429, with an added £70 for 3G(nearly 3x what it costs them to improve if you consider exchange rates).

So my point is not "are you getting value for money" which for a lot of people they are, because the iPhone 4 has what they are looking for in a phone. My point is Apple are ROBBING YOU BLIND and you are giving them tops for value. The reason they can do this is, as I have suggested, a simple and accessible UI and great marketing. The problem here is that they are making huge profit margins and everyone is buying them, when other companies are charging at just over the techs prices and not getting the same "I <3 Apple" response that the money grabbing bastards are getting.

The main reason I hate Apple is that they sell over their own products, such that my 3G is now useless, but they dont care because half the people who have 3G went out and dropped another 'deposit on a house' on the next version, and will do for this one too.

So I guess what I am saying is that people who buy this stuff have way way way more money than sense. Its just obscene that they are making more than 100% profit on these things and you are just thinking "Great value for money Apple, thanks for making underpowered but shiny shiny pretty thingy so I can burn money on something I already have (but slightly less shiny shiny)".

So epic fail for people who love Apple and well done Apple for getting the retarded masses to love you for selling them your vomit!

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DaveH

4:30 PM on 25 June, 2010

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What about GPS performance? Have they improved it?

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Nick Gilbert

4:48 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@Keith Sorry - my mistake. But if they noticed the problem, why score the phone a 9? - that makes even less sense. Apple was also lying at that point and have subsequently admitted to the problem. You can make the phone physically lose reception and drop an active call just by holding it normally in your left hand (plenty of vids on YouTube and I've experienced it myself) so it's certainly not just a software glitch with the signal strength meter.

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Ian Yates

5:10 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@sockatume I'd be careful. My experience of 3 was terrible to say the least. I lasted maybe two weeks of such awful signal that I got my money back. And I'm in central London...

Unless I just missed it, I was slightly shocked you didn't mention the ball-and-chain that is iTunes.

For me, the main reason I will never own an iPhone is that you really don't have a choice about using iTunes or not - something which I've vowed never to put on one of my computers again.

My other reason is Apple's personal choice on how it treats iPhone OS developers, but that's not really relevant to this review.

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LinguisticPedant

5:58 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@Kaiser202 - You sound very bitter and frankly, your comments are quite insulting. I am not retarded, or stupid and I find the iPhone caters for every one of my mobile needs and it does it very well.

I suppose the value aspect comes into whether you can afford it. You appear to not be able to afford it, so you are clearly not the target market. There are millions out there, including myself, who are happy to shell out a premium for a premium product. To say I have more money than sense is a joke. Clearly your money (which you don't seem to have much of) is outweighing your sense.

Think about it. (Not too much though, it's only a phone.)

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Kaiser202

7:47 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@LinguisticPedant - Apologies for my rudeness, but you are a prime example of why what I am saying (in general) is correct. You look down your nose at me because I don't have enough money to pay the equivalent of my yearly gas and electric bill on a phone. You are the prime market, you really are. The type of person who sees this as not only a phone with features that are useful (by the way all phones have most of the features that the iPhone has, and some of them can even allow you to set whatever text tone you like, not just a selection of lame ones :D) but also as a symbol of status and wealth.

Carry on being a smug, rich snobby person, you're proving my point :D The iPhone 4 is for you!

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Tim

9:40 PM on 25 June, 2010

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Geez, Kaiser202, get a grip.

It's a market economy, Apple has got to try to sell the phone for as much as they can. The new Mac Mini is even more ridiculous at over 800 quid, but as long as they find buyers, it's their prerogative to price it like this.

For people like you and me (I couldn't afford an iPhone either) there is like a gazillion cheaper phones out there, actually, basic functionality - calls and messages - will be served by any phone built after 1996 or so.

Apple is getting too much attention?

YOUR FAULT!

It's people like you, who flock to every article and comment the sh*t out of it, even though they don't want no part of the product. Look at TR's home page: the top 3 most commented on articles are about the iPhone 4. So TR is thinking "damn, we need to get us some more iPhone stuff".

That's why every fart from Cupertino is reported, because people actually take the time to comment how they are not interested in these farts. So an article of topic X that doesn't catch your interest is dead space for TR, an article about something by Apple that doesn't catch your interest is still a page impression.

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Keithe6e

10:03 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@Kaiser202: Carry on being a smug, rich snobby person, you're proving my point :D The iPhone 4 is for you!

With that comment I think you've actually proven @LinguisticPedant point.

I'm also at a loss on why your 3G is useless, my 3G seems pretty fine, has it become faulty, well if it has why not sell it for £150 on Ebay -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Iphone-3g-8gb-Unlocked-Jailbreaked-faulty-no-signal-/320552519879?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item4aa26b48c7#ht_500wt_1100 , not bad for a phone well over 2 years old and broken eh?

With that £150 it would make a good deposit on a HTC Desire, that company never supersedes it previous model. So if you get the Desire it will be a top of the range phone for the next 100 years, cool eh?? And if your 3G is not faulty even a better deposit, wot wot..

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JohnH

10:30 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@kaiser202 - nice to see someone with some principles.

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TarikBos

10:36 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@ LinguisticPedant- meh, its the choice between a phone that can do everything only a little bit cooler and slicker or a phone that can do everything. you're basically paying for the cool factor. lets face it android can do everything osi can.

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JohnH

10:50 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@LinguisticPedant - you're confusing affordability with value for money.

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Jim Fulton

11:00 PM on 25 June, 2010

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@Tim - the most sense I have read on this thread.

If Apple priced it "wrongly", they'd have another Apple TV on their hands - an abject failure by every stretch of the imagination. Something tells me that they haven't, because early indications suggest that it will be a big seller. For every Apple hater, there's an Apple lover....no different (to use Kaiser202's analogy) to comparing Honda (good quality, cutting edge tech in some areas, but ultimately dull to some people), with, say BMW (seen as poor value for money, but built to last, with a real engineering depth, and everything works with precision).

Is it just me who doesn't have a problem with iTunes? I can buy on Amazon, or rip from P2P if I wish, still add to iTunes, and still export the MP3 files elsewhere if I ever bought a Zune (arf arf).

TR pays its way in ONE WAY ONLY people - generating web traffic, and like I said before, love Apple or hate them (where are you tonight @drdark :) ) a lot of haters read this page. Apple made you look, suckas!!

FWIW, iOS4 seems to be much slower on a 3G iPhone.

Lastly, why all the talk of £600? I can't see the problem with Vodafone's 24 month contract at £35pm, 1G of data, handset at £219. All the haters thinking it's £600....erm.....no. I'm not such a fanboy that I have to have iPhone 5, like I didn't need a 3GS.

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Castalan

7:20 AM on 26 June, 2010

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Makes a Nexus One look like stunning value for money - android 2.2 - lightning fast - and *shock horror* supports flash.

£600 for a phone that doesn't actually deliver on what I as a standard web user want

I'll be happier WITH the £600 in my pocket if it's all the same :)

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McPlopp

10:19 AM on 26 June, 2010

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Why do people who are clearly anti-Apple feel compelled to argue/comment so tenaciously in Apple threads? Just move along to a different post and enjoy your day! (Leaving us Apple fans happily hugging one another and basking in the warm virtual glow of Facetime.)

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Jones

11:01 AM on 26 June, 2010

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To be fair, Kaiser202 has a bit of a point - he's just putting it over in an insulting to some way!

At the end of the day kaiser, if you had millions would you buy a house in a council estate or busted up old Ford Escort? Im not looking down my nose at these things, there is nothing wrong with council estates or Escorts (OK, Im lying about the latter at least...) but if I had the cash Id be splashing it out on some stupid crazy lavish house!

People who are buying or contracting to iPhones may not be rich but they are getting their hands on a gadget they find desirable. Other phones may have more functionality, few have the physical appeal or immediate "usability" (for want of a better word) that an iPhone offers.

There a few out there that do my box in. You know the sort. They buy everything Apple produces without consideration. They pre-order it all and wait outside the stores from 5am. Houses full of Apple gear. Those few are the crazy ones. But then Microsoft and Sony have their fair share too for their consoles.

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1:30 PM on 26 June, 2010

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So I went to the Voda store today and played with a demo unit - they wont have stock in for another couple of weeks. I could have pre-ordered though but didn't because in the end, lovely as it is, it just doesn't do anything much better than my current phone and it just doesn't excite me enough to replace it.

Sure, it's snappier and the screen is really sharp - although turning the brightness down kind of takes the edge off it. Still stunning up close but not really that much different at normal calling/browsing length. I don't think it's as colour rich as a good OLED - kind of seemed a bit 'industrial' if you know what I mean.

As for the reception issue, couldn't replicate that at all.

The main thing was, and I'm probably going to get flamed for this, was that it was a bit... well... boring. It's kind of like a 3GS in different clothes and I'm just losing interest in the whole aluminium/steel and shiny glass aesthetic.

Maybe it's just me.

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9:34 PM on 26 June, 2010

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@McPlopp - to answer your question.... because it matters. No good can come of Apple and their business model but suckers are lining up to throw money at them.

Not that a few words here will make the slightest bit of difference. We're all doomed.

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ChrisC

6:54 PM on 27 June, 2010

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I am surprised Apple marketing haven't previously coined the term 'backside illumination' to describe the sun that apparently shines out of Steve Jobs bottom.

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12:05 AM on 28 June, 2010

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@Jim Fulton: Did someone call? :P

Oh dear. Don't start the car comparisons again, we had enough of that in the Macbook Air thread!

@Kaiser202: Actually, regarding the price of the 3G iPad; it does add GPS too, not just the 3G connectivity.

@Ian Yates: I agree on the perils of iTunes and the evil dev treatment.

I must say though, 3's network has been perfectly fine for me for over three years now.

Now then, hmm, the article:

I thought it was ok, certainly not shocked by the scores. Perhaps it does stand out as having a longer review than most phones, but then I'd just say there was a lot to cover. What did irk me was the last couple of paragraphs. There seemed to be an apology for having a long, balanced review, followed by basically "this is still the bestest phone evaaaaaaarrrrr".

P.S. My nit-picking brain's forcing me to also point out it's a Retina Display not "Retina screen" and that "FaceTime" should have a capital 'T'. Then again, I only used one for about half an hour, so what do I know?

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drdark

7:00 PM on 28 June, 2010

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This just in: the iPhone4 does not upload 720p video properly to YouTube...

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/28/psa-iphone-4-does-not-upload-720p-video/

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GeorgeMadden

11:03 AM on 29 June, 2010

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Had a look at the iPhone 4 in store, comparing it with my HTC Desire. Yes, the iPhone has a brighter screen and higher resolution, yes it is quick, yes it is pretty. But it's less comfortable in the hand, navigating around a webpage feels jittery compared to the smooth but responsive android web-browser, and the UI just feels a bit limited compared to the flexibility of Android. But most annoying for me was the huge black rim around a fairly small screen. By contrast the Desire's screen pretty much fills the front of the phone. Apple have just wasted space there, which strikes me as lazy design.

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5:31 PM on 29 June, 2010

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Nice review -- even if I don't agree fully, it is after all an opinion (it'd be worth telling some of the commenters here that) -- and I feel it emphasizes the strength of having 10 increments in the review score.

Other websites, naming no names, have given this phone a marginally higher score than say the HTC desire despite them both being very different and aimed at different target audiences. With them both having a 9/10 score on here, one can see that they are both very good phones, and neither is the wrong choice.

...alright, I had to say it -- the 7/10 is too high. there.

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micktwo

6:31 AM on 1 July, 2010

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If you want an iphone 4 but don't want to spend your hard earn cash. Get it free by completing a two weeks free lovefilm offer, cancel it before the free trial ends and refer some friends to do the same and viola you get you own free iphone 4. Use this link:

http://gadgets.freebiejeebies.co.uk/164152

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7:36 PM on 16 July, 2010

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Unfortunately, I have yet to read a decent, impartial review of phone 4. Users of iphone 4 around the world are slating it yet review site after review site gives it near perfect scores. I sent my iphone back after problems, so would give it 4/10. I am so glad I now have a Samsung Galaxy S.

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Akr

9:58 AM on 6 August, 2010

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The iphone 4 will work with a 9 year old pc running XP but not with a 3 year old mac running Tiger. So mac users on Tiger need to spend a further £130 to upgrade to Leopard. There is absolutely nothing on Leopard that the iphone 4 needs as it runs fine with XP. The only reason of course is for Apple to make extra money and force you to upgrade your operating system. How cynical, but that is how it is. Needless to say the iphone has been sent back and am awaiting the delivery of the nexus one whose makers will not be trying to rip me off.

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ravi

4:20 PM on 1 September, 2010

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wait.!!!..just before u jump in to buy iphone4...do must have a look at samsung galaxy9000...put them side by side...screen on...u may never buy iphone for sure...the screen is so stunning on galaxy9000...it is impossible to ignore galaxy9000.

Galxy9000 has seriousely challenged iphone4....and may force every buyer to rethink.

See for yourself ad decide...IMO nothing come even close to galaxy9000 screen or wave8500screen at smaller size.

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4:23 PM on 1 September, 2010

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@Ravi - it is worthy of comparison but side-by-side, for my eyes, the iPhone wins quite easily.

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PK Son

7:24 PM on 9 September, 2010

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@EVERYONE : Your phone plans are much cheaper than they are in Korea. Stop complaining.

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10:27 AM on 21 September, 2010

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This is the first time I have ever commentated on a review website but when I was choosing a new phone I used the Trusted Reviews site and found it very helpful, so I thought it only fair that I make a contribution.

I have owned an iphone 3GS and now have an iphone 4. I use it for business – mainly call and e-mails with some occasional web browsing to check company websites on the move. I tried watching a movie but it hurts my eyes and I prefer my Sony Walkman for music.

Commenting on the iphone 4, I would say that it works perfectly. I have not experienced any problems with the signal nor the battery life. I have not calculated how long the battery lasts but it has simply not been an issue. If you are looking for a modern, stylish phone I can easily recommend it.

Comparing the 4 with the 3GS is more complicated. I loaded the 3GS with OS4 and ran a side by side comparison. The screen of the 4 is a bit brighter but it does not make it any easier to read. Regards software performance they are identical. I don’t envisage myself using video conferencing at the moment and I feel the need for multi-tasking on a phone. The designs are different but both are pleasing enough so I don’t think it is an issue. Overall if you already have a 3GS I cannot really recommend that you buy the 4 unless you just want to have the latest – and there is nothing wrong with that.

Alternatively, if you are running something older, want to upgrade, but are a bit short of cash, buying a good second hand 3GS looks like a good move.

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9:17 PM on 18 October, 2010

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My husband has just bought me the Iphone4 (as he has one and loves it) and I have to say...I think its great too! It so different to anything I've ever had before and I have to keep reminding myself that its actually a phone. It has so many incredible apps that the phone is the last thing I'm using it for. 10/10 from my husband and I!

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12:38 PM on 22 April, 2011

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I think it rather pointless comparing cars/phones etc. etc. as each serves a different purpose. I know folks who happily pay 1000 quid for a parrot, so what, pay over that for a dog or cat. No way to compare of course. My wife`s brother paid more for a car than some houses I have seen at 93k - now that is obscene. That would get you a few iPhone 4`s. I did own one, a very efficient and well made phone. Very easy to use that I could show my 88 year old gran how to. Point being it is a simple user experience because Steve - autocratic- Jobs is targeting the simpler person.. it`s kids in the main who have, I believe untold wealth. I became utterly bored with its simplicity and gave it to my daughter. One of the lucky ones, not rich-ha. I personally like a bit of a challenge with anything technical, you get none at all with this device. Boring boring. Also arrogant Jobs says WE don`t need Flash-- oh, do we not, thank you for thinking for thousands out there. You nugget.

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Natasha

11:47 AM on 26 June, 2011

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I have purchased my i-phone 4 and will receive it shortly. Other than paying £69.99 my contract price is pretty good at £35.00 a month for 600 minutes and unlimited text. In short I am paying £69.00 for my i-phone as I was paying £25-£40 on my old contract. Although, I will be tied to a 24month contract.

I viewed this sight to get an overiew of the phone and to see what others thought about the phone, were there any major design faults etc. Instead I have had to read loads of rubbish about cars, people having more money than sense etc.

WTF! If you refuse to pay for an i-phone it means you don't have one and therefore cannot comment. Why get so worked up about it. Why are you so angry. I think a shrink would be more beneficial.

Anyway, my conclusion is that more people (who have owned this phone) like the phone than not. Yes, some people have found some things they would like to change but that's the same with everything.

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the iPhone 4 is arguably the best smartphone on the market. It's build quality puts others to shame, it has a style all of its own, its operating system is the easiest and slickest to use, its app store is unsurpassed, and it has some class leading features. Just be prepared to pay for the privilege. Read full review

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Reviewed 24 June 2010
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